The AMD Ryzen All In One Tread /Overclocking/Memory Speeds & Timings/Tweaking/Cooling Part 2

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by vbetts, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. Kool64

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    Well at least you still hit 4400Mhz on a couple cores.PBO Override/Enhanced mode work at all on your motherboard.
     
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    Just tested AC:O (Build-in bench)
    4x4300MHz rest 2x4150 & 2x4000 is better than
    2x4300 2x4150 & 2x4300 2x 4100 ;)

    So CCX OC working as usuall, just OC 1CCX (first row)
    Try to go higher than 4600MHz ;) (it will need 1.475v+ IMO)

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    PBO doesn’t do anything for max clocks but it helps with multi core clocks where I get a fairly respectable 4300 in games. I also have to have it on to pass the AVX portion of prime95 because my boards stock power constraints are so low that it overwhelms the EDC and TDC in seconds. Still it’s working well if you take the boards price into consideration. I’ll probably upgrade to a B550 board if they ever release them.
     

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    OH I would not update the motherboard for no gains in overall performance.I would update if I wanted a better feature ,in my case Cheap x470 to X570 for PCEI generation 4.Damm I had 4 CPU's in my cheap X470 which I paid around $20-$30 bucks for and I am getting more CPU's when price is right with used ones.
     
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    Ok. so first off nice little program! Helps figure out some things. I decided to run a few setups BIOS wise to see difference in boost:

    *Disable PBO/settings
    Core1- 4.375ghz
    Core2- 4.350ghz
    Core3- 4.350ghz
    Core4- 4.375ghz
    Core5- 4.325ghz
    Core6- 4.375ghz
    Core7- 4.325ghz
    Core8- 4.350ghz

    CB15/20 score 4757
    Multi Core Max- 3.925-3.975ghz @ 1.194-1.212v


    *Auto PBO/settings
    Core1- 4.400ghz
    Core2- 4.375ghz
    Core3- 4.375ghz
    Core4- 4.400ghz
    Core5- 4.375ghz
    Core6- 4.400ghz
    Core7- 4.375ghz
    Core8- 4.375ghz

    CB15/20- score 4916
    Multi Core Max- 4.075-4.125ghz @ 1.313-1.350v


    *Enabled PBO/UV settings
    Core1- 4.375ghz
    Core2- 4.375ghz
    Core3- 4.375ghz
    Core4- 4.375ghz
    Core5- 4.350ghz
    Core6- 4.375ghz
    Core7- 4.350ghz
    Core8- 4.375ghz

    CB15/20- score 4990
    Multi Core Max- 4.125-4.150ghz @ 1.275-1.325v

    So with 1.0.0.4 bios CCX1 seems to be better of the two CCX's and core 5 is my worst performer. I know this chip can do boost to 4.425ghz on 6 of 8 cores. But latest BIOS has stopped that from happening. Multi core performance I feel is more temp driven than anything. UV keeps it below 70c which seems to be threshold to dropping speeds down other 50mhz
     
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    Yeah I am going to assume UV settings is CPU offset.Well PBO/UV settings look fine to me with good temperatures and performance would be the same on all settings.
    Too bad about some off these motherboard BIOS not unleashing the AMD Ryzen CPU's but I see why they will not do this and it is because the fact that temperatures numbers just bug people when over a certain number.

    Hey you could always try what OnnA is suggesting and set the CCX with the stars and dots to an overclock and do not worry about the other CPU Cores not running at full speed,maybe you could get 4450Mhz on 4 cores with less temperatures and not notice a difference in how CPU runs.
     
  8. Mr. Sunshine

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    How do you use RivaTuner to see CPU in game? Tried to get it to run but seem to be missing something
     
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    Yes UV was with offset. Going to try 4.400ghz on CCX1 and 4.375ghz on CCX2 see if that can run stable. Since core never boost past 4.4ghz anyways with this board.
     
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    Good luck in trying overclocks on CCX
    Well you can do it a couple different ways.Using MSI Afterburner may be the best way,it has plugins for AIDA64,HWinfo64,GPU DLL,CPU DLL,Perfcounter DLL.

    Hell I just made one for ya,just unzip in MSI Afterburner\Profiles and you can change colors and crap see below.It will also detect your Grpahics card /CPU
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1avouTC3_Q-oGryf1pYU_e4JOcWaTdJqg/view?usp=sharing


    So in MSI After burner under monitor section and on screen display layout section under active properties you have lots of choices from adding graphs/text/sizes/colors.Read tool tips for at properties for other settings
    • /n - as intendent moves down 'new line'
    • /t - move lines to end or can use spacebar to move whole or parts of lines
    • <Sn> - graph scale/size, where 'n' is number taken from Sizes_library defined by user
    • <P=x,y> position
    • Shift + 0 can add sizes/colors etc on properties
    https://i.**********/yD6MzJLy/Star-Wars-Jedi-Fallen-Order-Screenshot-2019-12-07-13-33-30-15.png
     
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    il be interested in something else let's take my example which i did on my r5 3600
    first i benchmarked with cb15 on auto voltage to see the scores and they are like this 196 for single core and 1582 for multicore and the clocks were 3975 for multicore and 4150 for single core
    now i did the same tests but with -0.05v on offset the scores on cb15 were exactly the same but now the clocks were lower like 3900 multicore and 4100 for single core
    so by going with the minus offset got me lower clocks but the scores were still the same which is interesting
     
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    I still do not get the importance, I know it is a quick benchmark but what does it really tell you about a CPU by non Cinema 4D's 3D modeling, animation, motion graphic artist.
    Then again benching anything can be pure fun.

    Hitting 4325Mhz sometimes is good I would be fine with that.Have you actually tried to modify your windows power plan to get some more voltage on light loads and higher CPU numbers,just f'ing with ya.
    Your good and remember @2560x1440p @4300Mhz AMD Ryzen 3700X is just as fast as Intel 9900K @ 5000Mhz in gaming.

    Just tried some 4700Mhz CCX overclock streaming light load game,I think I will try 4800Mhz but will need higher than 1.45v maybe not sure yet,never tried.
     
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    i just wanted to check what people say that if you undervolt it a bit the boost is the same well it's not for sure
     

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    Well which boost do you actually mean with offset voltage,be more specific and maybe I could help you out.
     
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    normal boost without pbo.
    and i dont have any problem with it was just reporting some behavior i saw with 3rd gen ryzen
     
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    Tried OCing CCXs. Neither would go past 4.3ghz.... just a bad binned chip. Anything higher would crash CB15/20. On top of temps around 85c under all core load. No point really considering I hit 4.325-4.350 in games with Auto settings.
     
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    Nothing the matter with auto settings and the CPU's are still fast.
     
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    Damn it. I just finished 20 cycles of Testmem without issues at 3600MHz (Ryzen 1st gen!!!!) with (don't laugh) CL22. :D
    But as soon as I wanted to open snipping tool the rig froze. CRAP! :(
     

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