The AMD Ryzen All In One Tread /Overclocking/Memory Speeds & Timings/Tweaking/Cooling Part 2

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by vbetts, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. 386SX

    386SX Master Guru

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    Yes and no. :D
    I did test with Memtest86 afterwards, but I must confess I did only 4 passes (without error) and then thought it would suffice for now. The program used earlier was "Testmem 5 v0.12" with the "v2 config" from 1usmus. I know about not being able to test 100% of memory. But still it's like the change of night and day between the two runs. And for stability I think Testmem 5 is reliable, if you know all sticks are OK.
    That's what gives me a headache. I can understand there is some drop of voltages (even with LLC), but timings were set between SAFE and FAST somewhere, tRFC 278, temps were OK this time, voltage still fine ...

    And now? Now I am back on the profile which >>didnt<< work last week. 3400MHz CL14 with tRFC of 238. Works like a charm and is 1ns faster than 3466.

    I am puzzled ...
     
  2. Clouseau

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    Have you tried reflashing the bios? Sometimes after messing with timings not even timings that I knew were good would work. When that occurs, I would reflash the bios and sometimes that was the trick. Others, it eventually came to that the settings were not all that stable.
     
  3. OnnA

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    Lowered latency :p for FREE.
    Setting power plan setting interrupts to "proccesor 1" it can decrease memory latency by around 0.8ns

    Download this tool (im using it always to set my own Power Plan configuration, 1Usmus Plan with my Tweaks :cool:)
    (Original Post -> https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/windows-power-plan-settings-explorer-utility.416058/ )
    -> http://www.mediafire.com/file/wt37sbsejk7iepm/PowerSettingsExplorer.zip/file
    Please unhide: Interrupt steering.

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    Tested & it's working, but everyone need to check the perfect option for themself ;)
    I have it set at - <Lock Interrupt Routing> now to proccesor 1 (it gives me ~0.3ns)
    4x8GB is used.

    Source: https://www.overclock.net/forum/showthread2.php?p=28201630#post28201630

    [​IMG]
     
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    Thank you for this, tested and stable to 800% MemtestPro, and 2.5 hrs of BFV.

    I am currently running B-Die, ProcODT 36.9- 24-20-20-24, disabled/disabled/RQZ-5/ 16-17-16-16-32-48-288 @ 1.47v getting 63.0-62.8 latency with SMT enabled and NO SMT 63.9-63.8, I stole/added your 1-4-4-1-2-2-1 and it dropped my latency from 63.8- 63.3 down to the above.

    Before Agesa 1004, I was never able to go lower than ProcODT 40 or it would never boot, don't know if that had much of an effect vs the timings though. Hats off to your persistence good sir.
     

  5. K.S.

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    Here's my logic -
    • Isolate all but one ram module
    • Establish your desired timings
    • Run MemTest86 off bootable DOS environment
    • Using one module; you can tweak, test, pass - faster
    • Verify established stable timings in DOS & Windows
    • Verify end-result simultaneously on all DIMMs
     
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  7. 386SX

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    That's almost how I already do it, but I use my 2 sticks all the time. I found Ryzen behaves VERY sensitive regarding voltage for example, and what runs with one stick isn't guaranteed to run with two. I know this takes longer for a run to complete, but then I have the end result faster because I can skip the second test.

    In addition the thermal issues didn't show on 1 dimm ...

    So far I think CADBUS / RTT / ProcODT seems to be the issue, as I still lack a reliable info about how to calculate those. IF, THEN, ELSE or the like.

    So far: the higher you set it, the more latency you create. ALL of them do that.

    Does anybody know some "rule of thumb" regarding memtest errors? Like "if error 10 (bit fade) happens, raise voltage of either SOC or RAM." It would make life easier.
     
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    The power steering setting was cool. Setting it to Processor 1 was the only setting that made a noticeable difference in benchmarks. Games, could not tell a difference. The one thing it did do, made the ipc for single threads look amazing. Need to see if it is noticeable in older games. Single thread CPU-Z results went from 545 to 550; 545 was touch and go while 550 is solid (549 was the lowest result out of ten). Ram latency remained the same at 62.5ns.
     
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    On my 3700X I gained 8 points in CPUZ single to put it at 531 and I did in fact get lower latency by just about .8 on the 1Usmus plan with "procesor 1" Locked didn't have any effect.
     
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    I'm glad I'm not crazy and 1usmus confirmed the lower clocks with the 46.54 SMU.
     
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    Is that usable for Ryzen 2000 series?
    Because when enabling it, MemBench fails after few seconds.
     
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    I was using The Stils modified BIOS before the ASRock beta. I actually liked it a bit better it had a more aggressive SMU.
     
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    Unfortunately there is no modified bios for me from Stils.
    Tks for all advice's
     
  18. Mr. Sunshine

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    Have all these set as you do. Still only seeing 4.4ghz max boost on 2 cores. In game max I get is 4.350-4.375ghz. Dont know how you guys are getting higher clocks

    I know gerardfraser has that great 3800X combo going which makes sense for higher boost. And you've stated your best boost was 4.575 with steady clocks of 4.425 and 4.450. What CPU are you running? Thought it was 3700X....If its a 3800X then that would explain it.
     
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    Maby try different settings?
    CPU 0 or First avaible?
     
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    Running a 3800X but you are getting the same equivalent boost clocks, actually a bit better.
     

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