The AMD Ryzen All In One Tread /Overclocking/Memory Speeds & Timings/Tweaking/Cooling Part 2

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by vbetts, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. dsbig

    dsbig Ancient Guru

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    can never get my memory as stable as it was with bios thats from march 2018.............

    cant run it stable 24/7 at 3000mhz. some days it will run fine at that speed but then other days it wont.
    I was running macrium reflect recovery and copying files and it kept bsod. until I turned memory speed down to 2666mhz.
     
  2. Webhiker

    Webhiker Master Guru

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    According to your profile page you have a 1700X and Asus ROG Strix b350 with 32 GB Ram Gskill Ripjaws.
    Is it 4 x 8 GB or 2 x 16 GB ? If it's 2 x 16 GB then your max frequency might be 2933 MHz or if you adjust a few settings in ram 3200 MHz.
    If it's a 2 x 16 GB CL14 kit then usually you change tRCDRD to 15 and try 3200 MHz with DRAM voltage at 1.38v or 1.40v.
     
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    Ripjaw v series 4 x 8 gb sticks.
    • DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600)
    • Timing 16-18-18-38
    • CAS Latency 16
    • Voltage 1.35V
    I think some issues is that fact its intel certified memory and not ryzen , that was my bad when ordering.
    not matter what it wont run at 3200, increasing timing has not effect, system reboots with oc fail message
     
  4. Webhiker

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    Have you tried using Thaiphoon burner and exporting the mem info to a HTML file and then importing that into Ryzen DRAM Calculator ?
    When your RAM comes with an XMP profile, it's usually better to key in the numbers manually in the BIOS.
     
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  5. OnnA

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    I've set 2 Profiles in RM
    4300MHz 1.308v (up to 1.33v) all cores
    4.3GHz CCX1 and 4.2GHz CCX2 1.284v
    All good so far, im not using BPO as of now, my method is better for Gaming.
    64ns RAM Vs 67ns PBO :D
    Temps Up to 68deg.cels (Fan @50% Max for Nepton 280L is enough for ZEN2)

    Note:
    Overall im happy with upgrade:
    -> https://www.3dmark.com/fs/20435620

    The bigest gain in gaming was for AC:O and GR:WL, same settings but smoother gameplay.
    Now i can Play those Heavy games :p (Ultra/V.High is set)
     
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  7. gerardfraser

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    With the MSI BIOS I followed this below in spoiler before new thread was made by The Stilt.
    I ask The Stilt to modify a beta BIOS for me a few days ago and he was so nice to do so,now he was so nice with this new thread it is just awesome.

    To Flash the MSI X470 Gaming Plus BIOS from Windows desktop.
    Download
    Flash from Windows.All BIOS Flash is Risky and can Brick your Motherboard.I have flashed my MSI X470 Gaming Plus this way.No Protection on MSI Motherboard and instructions I followed were by The Stilt in a post over overclock,not the newest one posted by Webhiker above.
    https://ami.com/en/

    Go to Products >> Firmware Tools & Utilities >> AptioV Firmware Update Tool.

    Download the package and browse to: AMI AFU for Aptio V >> afu >> afuwin >> 64 and extract Afuwin64.zip to preferred location.

    Launch AFUWINGUIx64 with Admin rights and click "Open" and select the extracted Carbon.ROM file.
    Under "Setup" tab click "Program All Blocks" option and press Flash. After the update has been completed, shut down the computer (as usual) and clear CMOS.
     
  8. OnnA

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    CCX0 4350MHz CCX1 4150MHz 1.38v
    All core 4300MHz at 1.308v-1.33v

    BIOS v.7403 strongly reccomended, just change Boot RAM to the same value as RAM (I have 1.415v)
    I like this CPU already :D

    [​IMG]
     
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    samsung b-die ram?
     
  10. OnnA

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  11. DW75

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    I have been very impressed with my 3800X. Compared to my previous 2700X, the 3800X is giving me a solid 25 percent improvement in framerates in games. Everything is much faster on the PC as well. AMD has made some great improvements with Zen 2. Things are just so much more snappy when working around the OS.
     
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  12. OnnA

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    ^^ True, now think i had 1700 OCed to 3.93GHz ;)
    Now with 4350MHz w/DDR 3800CL16 is just like UFO :D

    For Web & non Heavy gaming im using "only" 4150MHz 1.224v and it still plenty fast.
     
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  13. AsiJu

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    Out of interest which games do you see this in? As another 3800X user.
     
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    In pretty much all my games, I am getting about a 25 percent performance increase on average. To name a few, this includes GTA 5, Battlefield 1, Killing Floor 2, World War Z, and many others. I will ask though, how is your CPU for boosting ? Without overclocking, I get 4.55 boost on 5 cores, and 4.65 boost on 3 cores. I ended up with a rather good chip. The CPU will randomly pick which ones are hitting either boost clock. I am on BIOS 3.60 on my Asrock X470 Taichi board. I am part of the beta BIOS group, but I still have not been given the new ABBA BIOS yet.

    Edit: Still no new BIOS yet.
     
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  16. Kool64

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    I can't wait to see the ABBA BIOS for my ASRock B450M Pro 4 if the improved capacity to OC memory is true. My garbage Hynix AFR wouln't even run at 3200 on my 1600X but it's stable at 3333 now with my 3700X. Hoping for more!
     
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    i have a very similar kit to yours but the 4000mhz cl19 rgb, im running it at 3733 with 16-17-16-32, but i cant make it work at 3800 mhz, my pc will just reboot on memtest even tho i have no errors, what soc voltage are you running to make 3800 work, because i can do mem test 400 % no error on all thread on my 3900x at 3733 with 1.405 V on the ram
     
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    I get 4525 MHz max boost on some cores, haven't really paid attention to which ones (1003ABB).
    (Older AGESA 1001 used to give slightly higher boosts and more frequently but it was otherwise buggy as hell, I could barely get the system to boot properly.)

    All core boost when gaming is between 4.3 - 4.4 GHz. ASRock X370 Killer SLI mobo and Thermalright Macho 120 CPU cooler.

    All settings at default / auto (PBO off). Only memory tweaked to 3200 CL14 (XMP is 3000 CL14).
     
  19. OnnA

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    I've used @1usmus Ryzen DRAM Calculator
    1.125v SOC | 1.415v DDR same for Boot | 16-17-17-16 34 46 1T GD
    Also im using LLC 3 for SOC and LLC 4 for CPU.

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    I know this Kit very well, do not try to set different than e.g. 14-15-15-14 or 16-17-17-16
    The Calc. advises 16-16-17-16 but we need Read/Write at the same latency.

    You should make it work tho, keep Trying

    What? Tweak MoaR ;)

    [​IMG]
     
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    ^Interesting to see the actual recommended resistances based on chipset be so different. X470, the recommended ProcODT is 34.3 and then Off/Off/5. Even just the difference from first gen Ryzen where I ran 7/Off/5 for 3466. The CAD_BUS settings are the same for both X370 and X470. Interesting.
     

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