The AMD Ryzen All In One Tread /Overclocking/Memory Speeds & Timings/Tweaking/Cooling Part 2

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by vbetts, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. Kool64

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    I saw that too and raised an eyebrow or two
     
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    I thought it was a pretty funny typo.

    Still, Hilbert wouldn't like anyone else to rip off his site without at least linking to the site.
    We should show courtesy to other sites as well.
    Everyone is making a living. ;)
     
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    The Stilt posted a modified BIOS for my B450M Pro 4 and it's hitting 4.4(4.392 thanks to a 99.8 bus speed ;/) on my 3700X like it's supposed to now

    Running Cinebench 20 right now and it’s boosting to 4.4 even on it and passing the single core test to one of the three “good” cores.

    510 single and 4863 multi(no PBO)
     
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    Oh dear sweet Jebus.
    Care to post a Link ? ;)
    Cheers :)

    edit : Oh wait, Pro 4. I read B450M Pro and got as far as that.
     
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    Yup it’s right here:

    https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-...ed-bioses-3rd-gen.html#/topics/1733304?page=1

    There are BIOS for other brands too.

    Oh and PBO still makes everything worse :(

    I just turned off spread spectrum and now I get 4400 on the nose! Hopefully PBO will get fixed too.
     
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    Yeah, I found the list, but no Asus Tuf B450M Pro Gaming.

    Will just have to wait for the Official version in about a month or so...or create an account on OC.net and see if I can get a request in ;)
     
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    I was super surprised to see it for my board. It wasn't there a while ago so The Stilt is adding them periodically.
     
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    Just looked in the ABBA thread, and WaveTrex said Asus has upped some New ABBA bios's, and checked the Asus website, and there it was :)

    I will be testing this weekend, ABBA here we come!!! :)

    edit : Major Props to Asus for being so quick.
    I expect they know that literally everyone is waiting on this Bios lol :)
     
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    The ABBA bios for the ASUS X470-F is a step up from prior versions. It posts quicker and a light kicking of the tires has proven to be fairly decent. Still not 100% there but close enough for now.

    It boost now at times to 4.55GHz which is good to see. The same issue still persists that plagued first gen Ryzen; BCLK is still 99.8. Other thing noticed at first glance is that the ram voltage needed went up a step or two. Before could run 3800 (16-16-17-16-32-48) w/FCLK @ 1900 stable at 1.3800v. ABBA required 1.3900v. Plus side is that latency according to Aida64 went down from 64.4 to 64.1. Hopefully this whole 99.8 (it is petty but still bugs me) can be solved.
     
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    if you you have the option turn off spread spectrum. That brought my FSB up to 100 on my ASRock B450M Pro 4.
     

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    Have same board as you. Seeing 4.425GHz on my 3700X but feel it could be a more refined bios. Notice latency drop also about .3-.4ns. The 99.8 bugs me to feel like I'm being rob of a few mhz. On a side note I installed a new Fractal S36 with BeQuiet SilentWing3 120 fans(73cfm) But dont now which temps to trust. Aida gives me 76c under stress test. HWinfo64 gives me 91c (4.0ghz)... Seems high for a AIO with good fans. But when I run some less intense(Memtest) which still loads CPU it only goes to 56c(4.275-4.30ghz)

    Guessing HWinfo is close to right. Ryzen Master gives me 88c damn this thing runs hot. Checked fans and pump... even reseated block.

    Update: Division2 give me about 58-60c in game...
     
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    There is a setting for spread spectrum. It is off by default. Switching it on has no effect either. Feel it is stuck on even though the setting is set to off.

    EDIT: the setting is in the VRM setup section. Also, found that the best ram performance was achieved using PE(Performance Enhancer)1. CPU multiplier during ram testing with TM5 was relatively consistent at 44.0 or above. Very briefly only a core or two would drop to 38.75. PE2 higher voltage with the cpu multiplier not ever dropping below 44.0. PE3(oc) even more consistently high voltage with the multiplier not dropping below 44.25. Decided to stick with PE1.
     
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    Yeah, watched it last night.
    Pretty good assessment, but I would add something.
    Complete speculation, but I think the Navi GPU's at 7nm are to help prepare the 7nm production line for good yields for the Xbox/PS GPU's.
    The 6 Month lead time at TSMC, could also be due to the intense production of the Console CPU/GPU's for release next year.
     
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    Sorry but I'm done with him. Not gonna watch it.
     
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    Guy is not always right, that's true.
    But i like his deduction (similar to mine).
     
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    Not sure why anyone would run R3xxx with ram past 3600, as this will lead to IF going 2:1 on clocks (vs 1:1).
    That loss is impacting system perf way more than going from lets say 3800 down to 3533/3600.
    Sure, maybe for ppl with specific work loads, but definitely not making any sense for avg joe/gamers.

    Anyone not used tweaked/manual settings should turn off PBO. Not one test/review could get consistent gains, and on avg its counter productive, either because of perf loss and/or higher Vs than needed.
     
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    Because IF can be set up to 1900MHz, so 3800MHz Ram.
    Thats the Max.
    Without going into the Bios, yes, it maxes out at 1800, but it can be set up to 1900 safely, if your CPU can do it.
    Not all can.

    I haven't turned on PBO at all yet.
    Haven't seen the need, and don't want to sacrifice the single core clocks.
    I agree with you there.

    Might have a play with Ryzen master when i've finished tinkering and tidying.

    edit : Oh, yeah. Got my Ryzen WC build up an running finally after about a couple of months.
    Have ordered a new CPU WB, so its still not quite finished yet lol.
    I have an EK Supremecy EVO, which was an Intel one originally, and converted to AMD mount.
    It seems the fins in the block don't fully cover the AM4 CPU heatspreader or something, and i'm getting high temps.
    With just the memory overclocked, and IF at 1900 (mem at 3800C16-16-16@1.42V), and Prime95 Small FFT's, i'm at 81°C after a good while.
    Once stopped, the temps drop to 20's in seconds.

    The GPU, which is just after the CPU in the loop, is getting great temps, so it isn't the loop.

    Ordered an EK Velocity AM4 Block.
    and a couple of VRM cooler WB backplates.

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