1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

The AMD Ryzen All In One Tread /Overclocking/Memory Speeds & Timings/Tweaking/Cooling Part 2

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by vbetts, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. Netherwind

    Netherwind Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    6,783
    Likes Received:
    978
    GPU:
    RTX 2080Ti Gaming X
    Thanks dude, you're a life saver.

    Regarding SR or DR, I've yet to find out a good way to understand how I identify my RAM as SR or DR but if I understand correctly 4xSR is pretty much on par with 2xDR?

    I don't mind overclocking RAM (it does show great promise in benches) but the problem is that I get memory errors and I don't know what to tweak in order for them to disappear. (I'll try the settings you gave me earlier once again)

    I've had that kit recommended to me before and it looks great, unfortunately it's not available in Sweden yet (will be in about a month) and second problem is that my mobo doesn't show up in G.Skill QVL list. My current memory isn't officially supported by MSI but on the other hand it is on the G.Skill QVL list so maybe it would work anyway :)
     
  2. Webhiker

    Webhiker Master Guru

    Messages:
    538
    Likes Received:
    110
    GPU:
    EVGA GTX 1080i SC2
    gupsterg from overclock.net posted a modified BIOS for C7H and C7H Wi-Fi for UEFI 2703 and 0002.
    On ROG forum : https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthre...ero-Essential-Info-Thread&p=782282#post782282
    It contains a modified SMU ( System Management Unit ) which comes from UEFI 2501
    This MOD restores the CPU boost to where it was before changes were made.
    UEFI 2703 is latest official Asus bios, 0002 is unofficial, but was posted by Shamino from Asus.
     
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2019
  3. gerardfraser

    gerardfraser Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,789
    Likes Received:
    478
    GPU:
    R9 290 Crossfire
    Some people may disagree but here is my experience with RAM.I know there may be some people with different results.
    If ram is DDR3/DDR4 it will work in any system that supports it.I have never used the QVL list on any computer in 10+years,but it is always the safest route to go.

    Example:
    I have my Intel gaming PC running actual AMD DDR3 2400 Ram when they used to sell it,got it half price compare to Intel Ram .(Works perfect)
    I have this main gaming computer running AMD 3600X with Intel Ram because it got a steal of a deal ,about half price for the 4000Mhz ram.(works perfect and overclocks past 4000Mhz better than most AMD Ryzen 3, I see out there)

    Also the Ram I listed I have not tested but I would be floored if it could not hit great timings and good CL.
    Good luck but get yourself a fan and keep the temperature down on the Ram because that could cause errors also.Try to stay below around 42c on the ram.Not the 50c you mentioned ,that's just a tip and not you need a fan.


    LOL It looks great as is,no harm in making it look more pretty I guess but who relly looks inside your PC anyway.Hell I got my PC hidden even with a crap ton of RBG stuff in it.
     
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2019
    bballfreak6 likes this.
  4. AsiJu

    AsiJu Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    5,799
    Likes Received:
    1,256
    GPU:
    MSI RTX 2070 Armor
    Ryzen used to be, at least, quite picky with RAM actually. Read: Samsung B-die.

    Even first gen Ryzens got improved compatibility with AGESA updates quickly though, but RAM remained a bit of a tricky spot.

    Zen+ and Zen2 were and are ofc progressively better in this regard. I suppose with Zen2 you can basically use "any" DDR4 memory now.

    Still I guess old recommendation holds: single rank and single-sided for maximum compatibility.
    Otherwise consult QVL and if not picking an exact module from there, research what brand and type chips most often work and choose a kit using those.
     

  5. Evildead666

    Evildead666 Maha Guru

    Messages:
    1,230
    Likes Received:
    234
    GPU:
    Vega64/EKWB/Noctua
    I watched buildzoids videos on Ryzen Memory Bandwidth and overclocking, and one thing he did comment heavily on was that more ranks/Banks was better (Not necessarily stable though).
    I haven't seen him elaborate more on this yet, but seeing as he has a 3600X iirc, it probably wont be too long.
     
  6. Kool64

    Kool64 Master Guru

    Messages:
    340
    Likes Received:
    123
    GPU:
    Gigabyte GTX 1070
    My garbage Hynix memory never even worked at 3200 on my 1600X but now I can run the same memory at 3333 with tighter than stock timings too.
     
  7. Clanger

    Clanger Master Guru

    Messages:
    234
    Likes Received:
    154
    GPU:
    igpu
    I only buy crucial now, i refer to their compatibility thingy on occasion, ive had quite a few ddr3/4 ballistix off them and aint had a problem yet.
     
  8. gerardfraser

    gerardfraser Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,789
    Likes Received:
    478
    GPU:
    R9 290 Crossfire
    I do not remember if I ever had any Crucial Ram but probably did.Always a good Idea to check any Qualified Vendors List ,especially if your not sure.
     
    Clanger likes this.
  9. bballfreak6

    bballfreak6 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    1,609
    Likes Received:
    102
    GPU:
    MSI 1070Ti Titanium
    Hahaha it sits on top of my desk right next to me with a full (granted tinted) tempered glass side panel :p

    But no I think I'm gonna stay put and just enjoy the new build for what it is for a while lol.
     
  10. gerardfraser

    gerardfraser Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,789
    Likes Received:
    478
    GPU:
    R9 290 Crossfire
    Oh your one of those weirdo's J/K :D.I actually built a desk in my wall and the computer is out of the way,so no one will ever see the inside but I really do have all kinds of things that glow in the computer.I guess it is a thing,seems like everything you buy has RGB.
     
    bballfreak6 likes this.

  11. bballfreak6

    bballfreak6 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    1,609
    Likes Received:
    102
    GPU:
    MSI 1070Ti Titanium
    Lol yep I got completely suckered in with this new build hahaha I actually bought the ram enhancement kit (yep come at me bro) to fill up the ram slots too sad I know lmao!

    Not going to lie though that huge tempered glass side panel looks gorgeous :p
     
  12. Clanger

    Clanger Master Guru

    Messages:
    234
    Likes Received:
    154
    GPU:
    igpu
    Oh dear lord :rolleyes: :D

    Sweetshit, an rgb dildo
     
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2019
    bballfreak6 likes this.
  13. AsiJu

    AsiJu Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    5,799
    Likes Received:
    1,256
    GPU:
    MSI RTX 2070 Armor
    Maybe things have changed. AMD stated during original Ryzen launch that SR / SS is preferred. They recommended Samsung B-die in particular actually.

    I think was mentioned in this video for example (skip to 3:55 for actual presentation):

     
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2019
  14. bballfreak6

    bballfreak6 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    1,609
    Likes Received:
    102
    GPU:
    MSI 1070Ti Titanium
    Lmao
     
    Clanger likes this.
  15. Clanger

    Clanger Master Guru

    Messages:
    234
    Likes Received:
    154
    GPU:
    igpu
    ive seen it all now :D
     

  16. bballfreak6

    bballfreak6 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    1,609
    Likes Received:
    102
    GPU:
    MSI 1070Ti Titanium
    It's the future my friend lmao. Pretty sure I saw a video on RGB cable extensions from Lian Li (out of all companies).

    I am glad I am not epileptic :p
     
  17. Clanger

    Clanger Master Guru

    Messages:
    234
    Likes Received:
    154
    GPU:
    igpu
    be handy if you were when the batteries run out. :D
     
    bballfreak6 likes this.
  18. Netherwind

    Netherwind Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    6,783
    Likes Received:
    978
    GPU:
    RTX 2080Ti Gaming X
    I e-mailed G.skill regarding compatibility but they said "sorry but we don't recommend the kit with your mobo unless MSI does a BIOS update" so not I've e-mailed MSI. I could just buy that kit in a month when it's available, try it, and if it doesn't work I can always return it.
     
  19. Evildead666

    Evildead666 Maha Guru

    Messages:
    1,230
    Likes Received:
    234
    GPU:
    Vega64/EKWB/Noctua
    For Ryzen 1 and 2, yes, I agree.
    This specifically for Ryzen 3000 series.

    In his very short tests, he seemed very excited that multiple ranks didn't seem to impact the memory speeds, it even seemed better, with large capacity dimms.
    As I said, he hasn't elaborated any more on it, but i'm sure he will get back to doing some tests soon ;)
     
  20. gerardfraser

    gerardfraser Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,789
    Likes Received:
    478
    GPU:
    R9 290 Crossfire
    Well they will only recommend kits that are on the list approved by MSI makes perfect sense to me.
    OK for crap and giggles.Do you ever do the Ryzen Dram calculator correctly for your ram in the first place.Export your XMP profile from Typhoon and import into Ryzen Calculator.

    Anyway here are all the support DDR4 3600Mhz memory kits for your motherboard 71 of them to be exact,check prices pick one and report back J/K lol. There are over 811 in total approved your choices are many grasshopper.

    Corsair CMK128GX4M8X3600C18 ver.4.31 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    Corsair CMK64GX4M4B3600C18 ver4.31 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    Corsair CMR128GX4M8X3600C18 ver4.31 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17D-32GTZ 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17D-32GTZKW 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17D-32GTZR 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17D-32GTZSW 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17Q-64GTZ 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17Q-64GTZKK 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17Q-64GTZKW 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17Q-64GTZR 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17Q-64GTZSW 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17Q2-128GTZKK 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17Q2-128GTZR 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17Q2-128GTZSW 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3600C18 ver4.31 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    Corsair CMK32GX4M4B3600C18 ver4.31 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    Corsair CMK32GX4M4D3600C18 ver3.31 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Spectek Z11B 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    Corsair CMR32GX4M4C3600C18 ver4.31 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    Corsair CMT16GX4M2C3600C18 ver4.31 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    Corsair CMW16GX4M2C3600C18 ver4.31 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    Corsair CMW16GX4M2C3600C18W ver4.31 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    Corsair CMW32GX4M4C3600C18 ver4.31 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    Corsair CMW32GX4M4C3600C18W ver4.31 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    Corsair CMW64GX4M8X3600C18 ver4.31 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    Corsair CMW64GX4M8X3600C18W ver4.31 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C16D-16GTZ 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17D-16GSXW 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17D-16GTRG 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17D-16GTRS 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17D-16GTZKW 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17D-16GTZR 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17D-16GTZSW 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17Q-32GTZR 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C17Q-32GVK 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    G.Skill F4-3600C18D-16GTRG 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix C 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C18D-16GTRS 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix C 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C18D-16GTZRX 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix C 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    G.Skill F4-3600C19Q-32GSXW 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    Galax HOF4CJL4BST3600K17LD162CL 2133MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX436C17PB3/16 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix C 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX436C17PB3/16 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    HyperX HX436C17PB3K2/32 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    HyperX HX436C17PB3K2/32 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix C 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX436C17PB3K4/64 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix C 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX436C17PB3K4/64 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v DUAL 16GB √ | √ |
    Apacer AHU08GGB36CJU5H(EK.16GA4.GGBK2) 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX436C17PB3A/8 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX436C17PB3AK2/16 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35V SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX436C17PB3AK4/32 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX436C17PB3K4/32 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX436C17PB4/8 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix C 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX436C17PB4A/8 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix C 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX436C17PB4AK2/16 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix C 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX436C17PB4AK4/32 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix C 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX436C17PB4K2/16 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix C 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX436C17PB4K4/32 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix C 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX440C19PB3/8Profile2) 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX440C19PB3A/8(Profile2) 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX440C19PB3AK2/16(Profile2) 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    HyperX HX440C19PB3K2/16(Profile2) 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    Tigo KMKG8G3600C19 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix C 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    Asgard VMA47UG-MEC1U2AJ1 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    Asgard VMA47UG-MEC1U2AW2 2400MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Spectek 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    ADATA AX4U360038G17-BR80 2666MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 5WB 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    ADATA AX4U360038G17-BRZ 2666MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Samsung 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    Crucial BLE8G4D36BEEAK.M8FE1 2666MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Micron E 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
    Thermaltake CL-W262-CA00SW-A 2666MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix CJR 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    Corsair CMW16GX4M2Z3600C18 ver3.31 2666MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz Spectek Z11B 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    Thermaltake R009D408GX2-3600C18A Ver 1.1.2 2666MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix CJR 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ |
    V-Color TL48G36S8BNRGB18 2666MHz 3600MHz 3600 MHz SK hynix C 1.35v SINGLE 8GB √ | √ | √
     

Share This Page