The AMD Ryzen All In One Tread /Overclocking/Memory Speeds & Timings/Tweaking/Cooling Part 2

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by vbetts, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. liviut

    liviut Member Guru

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    I have a 3600 and what i actually noticed when i put my memory to 3600 and the fabric is at 1800, the bios itself becomes a bit laggy, but other than that i didnt have any problem with 3600, but once i tried 3733 and infinity to half 1867 my friend the bios went from laggy to just totally blocked.
     
  2. Evildead666

    Evildead666 Maha Guru

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    I can hit 1900 no probs with 3800X, 2000 didnt work, but i'm not sure anyone has gone above 1900.
     
  3. CyberSparky

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    How long do think this will last before she pops?


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  4. JonasBeckman

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/commen...on/ewp3u8a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

    From a discussion around 1.0.0.2's boost algorithm, changes in 1.0.0.3 and there being no changes to this for 1.0.0.4

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cuojh2/amd_will_agesa_1002_damage_ryzen_3000/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cuk6bt/amd_reduced_boost_in_newer_agesa_versions_for/


    So 1.0.0.2 boosts higher, 1.0.0.3 reduces the boost by adding a different thermal limit (~5 degrees lower.) and also adding a new state for it though if PBO is on this is disabled.
    1.0.0.4 isn't changing anything here so it looks like this is going to stay and it might nor might not impact CPU lifetime though to what extent is unknown and AMD isn't saying but I assume good cooling will ensure there's no issues and also allows for a good boost speed if it can maintain the new somewhat lower temperature limit and what other changes there might be between the older and newer AGESA versions.

    Could also be review or benchmark related if AMD was pushing for 1.0.0.2 to be used for testing and then dialed it back a bit but that's speculative and having the CPU run hot will shorten it's lifetime but by how much is reliant on several factors.

    Thought it good info for overclocking and general Ryzen details and the new processors here and stuff like boosting, motherboard variances in speed and all that though I don't really have much knowledge on this at all but I find it fascinating and having a lot of free time I'm trying to read up a bit on how it all works with very mixed results. :D

    This seemed useful though. :)
    (Post up there is about a week and a half but going back a page showed no direct mention of it.)
     
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  5. Pandora's Box

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    3900X All-Core 4.3GHz Overclock @ 1.325V, RAM at 3600MHz, FCLK at 1800MHz.
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  6. OnnA

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    CROSSHAIR VI HERO BIOS 7403
    1.Improve system performance.
    2.Update AM4 Combo PI 1.0.0.3 Patch ABB
    a.Fixes a compatibility issue with Destiny 2
    b.Fixes an issue with certain Linux distros
    c.Removes Gen 4 support when using Ryzen 3000 CPUs
    3.Improves EZFlash performance to reduce boot time.


    -> https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO/HelpDesk_BIOS
     
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  8. Webhiker

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    This makes no sense at all. I know people running a 3700X with water cooling, where the CPU temp never goes above 62 under FULL load.
    It boosts to 4300 / 4275 max on a single core and does around 4175 all cores in CB20.
    Running with 62 deg C CPU temp, should easily boost to 4400 MHz since Ryzen Master says 95 deg C is the limit.
     
  9. Evildead666

    Evildead666 Maha Guru

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    Isnt there also a power limit ? as well as the temp limit ?
     
  10. Webhiker

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    It never reaches any of the limits, not even close.
    At least according to RM.
     

  11. CyberSparky

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    My 3700x just hit 4.513 on one core for a ms. :) Scored 509 SC and 5040 MC on R20. Holds 4.335 to 4.360 in games now as well. I have to say, this is the best $300 cpu I've bought in years! Even with the teething issues it's been a lot of fun tweaking. I don't believe I'll try pushing it any further though till I finish my external wall mount custom loop. Should have it finished by next week. :) Would be nice to see it consistently hit 4.5 on the other cores. Even if it is just during background tasks. Should have no issue holding 4.4 in games then. Guess we'll find out.

    In case anyone want's to try my settings.

    1.0.0.3abb, latest chipset driver.

    PBO Manual=PPT 124, TDC 75, EDC 115, Auto OC +175 Scalar x9. I have to adjust Package power limit to get PPT to move on my gigabyte board, it's in a different place than the XFR or PBO options for power limits. If I don't adjust both PBO and XFR to manual in both areas, for PPT, TDC, and EDC, it doesn't have any effect on my boost freq and will boost same as default roughly. All 3 are set just above what they max out, but for EDC, anything above 115 and performance and boosts tank back to normal.

    Also to add, I tried all options for AutoOC from +25 to +200 with scalar x1-x10, the only 2 options that boost at all to 4.4 or above is +175 and +200. None of the other options with Scalar 1-10 have any effect on boosts. +175 was the option that seems to boost more regularly. +200 was not nearly as often. Ymmv

    Hope this helps someone, I've spent a lot of hours to make this thing even hit the advertised clocks. Seeing it go higher is even sweeter. Good Luck!
     
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    Yeah I just tried those only 3700x and an ASRock B450m pro 4 and I still get negative results :/ looks like my board is holding it back.

    Still get a respectable 500 single and 4981 multi.
     
  13. Pandora's Box

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    Having more fun now. Per CCX-Overclocking

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    I was going to go for the 3800X, glad i went 37 instead :D
     
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  15. Evildead666

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    All I got was that Silicon Lottery found that all of the 3800X's could hit 4.2 Allcore at 1.275V (and that 4.3 could be the allcore max).
    I went 3800X for the extra TDP headroom, just to be sure.

    edit : I had my old i5 3570K at 4.2 allcore. Do I leave it at that, or leave it at stock, boosting to 4.5+ single core (tweaking here and there, obviously) ?
    I already hit 4.2 allcore boost anyway, at stock voltages.
     
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  16. bballfreak6

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  17. Netherwind

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    @gerardfraser Looks like I need more RAM, 32GB in total to be precise. Buying a new G.skill kit is very expensive and I want to make sure I choose the best solution now since I'm not upgrading for a couple of years.

    Choice 1 : Buy another 16GB G.skill kit (3200MHz CL14) ~€240 (4x8GB)
    Choice 2 : Buy cheap 32GB Corsair memory (3200MHz CL16) ~€200 (2x16GB)
    Choice 3 : Buy a faster 32GB G-skill kit but with worse latency (3600MHz CL18) (2x16GB)

    I've heard that having more than two sticks is not optimal, is that true? And I know I should OC them to 3600MHz but I got errors last time so not sure how to tackle this.
     
  18. Kool64

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    I know one thing. Stay away from C16 3200.
     
  19. AsiJu

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    Btw I noticed that Ryzen balanced power plan has CPU minimum state set to 99 % by default, which explains not downclocking very much when idle.

    Haven't tried it yet but setting this manually to 50 % for example should allow downclocking further.

    For reference Windows balanced has minimum state of 5 % by default.
     
  20. PcMrRe88

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    Thanks ! with your settings my 3700x on aorus 570 ultra finally boost 4470MZ !!!!!!


     
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