I'd like to share my story regarding the 3800X. I bought the following stuff: AMD 3800X MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon G.Skill 16GB 3200MHz CL14 Trident Z Corsair H100i Platinum SE A bunch of Corsair LL120 fans Intel 1TB M.2 Lian-Li O-11 Dynamic First thing I did was to get my board flashed at my retailer since I didn't have an older Ryzen, it took them 15min while I waited, great service! Building the whole computer was a mess though and took forever. First I tried the included Wraith Spire cooler since I thought my H110i was broken (the screws seemed too long and looked like they would penetrate the fins, which they apparently are supposed to do...ish after having googled for 30 minutes). The computer booted on first try and I could use the XMP profile on my memory without any problems. Installing Win10 was a breeze like always and I also got the latest chipset drivers. I installed three LL120 fans on the side of the case (as instructed by Gamers Nexus). Unfortunately temps were really bad, especially on the CPU side since the Wraith was breathing most of the hot air from the GPU back plate so temps around 85 degrees and max RPM was common in games like Anthem. Idle temps were also not too great with the cooler revving up and down. GPU heat was also a huge issue. Later I got a new H110i and installed it but in that process I was very unlucky and got some paste on two of the CPU pins and also on the CPU socket. Trust me when I say that I felt like life was really unfair at that point but I tried cleaning the best I could, installed the H110i and it luckily worked like a charm. Later I also moved the fans to the bottom of the case which helped with temps tremendously. I also got a beta BIOS from MSI (unknown which AGESA) and new chipset drivers were released which helped a great deal with the idle temps. I'd say that things are running fairly smoothly now and I'm very happy about game performance compared to my old 6700K. The biggest increases are in AC:Odyssey which play completely smooth at 4K/60fps even in Athens. Anthem also took a huge step forward with a 15fps boost in the city and while roaming with no CPU spikes like I had before. SotTR also plays better but still not perfect since there are some weird stutters in DX12 which aren't present in DX11. (Unfortunately DX11 plays like crap so DX12 is very necessary). This improvement is noticeable in the big city. My main issues now are the following: ¤ High idle voltages, my idle voltage is 1,488v atm but the chip is cool in Windows (~38-45 degrees depending on AIO RPM) ¤ Mystic Light not working as well as I hoped, for one it's considered malicious software by AntiCheat which a lot of games use, TD2 for example ¤ Still would like to have the GPU even cooler and preferably an even quieter case but I guess that's not possible I'd also like to OC my RAM to 3600MHz CL14 but I have no idea how to do that. I would also like to try PBO or even OC manually but I don't know how to do that either. There are too many parameters to understand, Intel is way better there since it's only CPU ratio increase and some Vcore tweaking and that's it.