The AMD Ryzen All In One Tread /Overclocking/Memory Speeds & Timings/Tweaking/Cooling Part 2

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    I love this!!! thanks i didnt know about it!!!
     
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    === SETTINGS ===
    PTT: 105
    TDC: 65
    EDC: 125
    Boost Override: +200
    Scalar: Auto
    
    Cores with Asterisks are the first and second best cores in each CCD, respectively.
    Curve Optimizer (all cores at lowest possible)
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    Core  0: -20**
    Core  1: -25
    Core  2: -25
    Core  3: -25
    Core  4: -15*
    Core  5: -25
    === SCORES ===
    Cinebench R20
    Single:  - / - / 4,8GHz
    Multi : 4527 / 80C / 4,65GHz
     
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    AMD Socket AM5 to Retain Cooler Compatibility with AM4?

    AMD's upcoming desktop processor Socket AM5 could retain cooler compatibility with the outgoing Socket AM4, according to a leaked technical document related to the socket.
    If true, this would be the first time that two fundamentally different sockets—one a PGA, and the other an LGA—are designed for cooler cross-compatibility.
    The document reveals that with a processor installed, Socket AM5 would align with the retention clip and mount-hole spacing identical to that of Socket AM4.
    This could mean you can carry over your expensive liquid-cooling setup or pricey AIO CLC over from your current Ryzen desktop build.

    New renders of Socket AM5 also reveal that the socket locking mechanism is mostly similar to that of Intel sockets, such as the LGA1200, and isn't a downscale of TR4/sTRX4 as was feared in social media.
    The top retention brace swings along a hinge, and held in place by pressure from a lever that locks into a hook. Depending on the model, AMD Socket AM5 processors could come in TDP values of 45 W, 65 W, 95 W, 105 W, 125 W, and 170 W.

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    A colleague from work bought himself a 5800x with x570 board and b-die ram (16-16-16-16-36 at 3600mhz).

    Do you guys have any recommendation for his setup? I have no experience in newer gen AMD setups but I want to give him easy advises he can follow.

    It would be nice if you would tag me so I get a notice and can jump to your answer. ;-)

    Thanks! :)
     

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    AMD Ryzen 5000 Series CPUs Are Receiving Price Cuts Across The Board Ahead Of The Intel Alder Lake-S Launch

    Up To 18% Off On The AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Processor

    In the report, Overclock3D looks over the prices of the Ryzen 5000 series in the UK and compiled the new prices of the Ryzen processors.
    • AMD Ryzen 5 5600X – Launch price £289.99 – Current Price £245.99
    • AMD Ryzen 7 5800X – Launch Price £428.99 – Current Price £354.79
    • AMD Ryzen 9 5900X – Launch price £529.99 – Current Price £450.00
    • AMD Ryzen 9 5950X – Launch price £749.99 – Current Price £718.88
    The price cuts on the Ryzen processors are not exclusive to the UK and actually are a global change. When looking at vendors selling the AMD Ryzen 5000 series processor, VideoCardz compared Amazon US, Amazon UK, and Geizhals.
    The price cuts were seen across the board with every processor with one exception in the US. The Ryzen 5900X actually increased in price in the United States.
     
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    The only thing I’ll replace my 3700x with is a 3D cache chip.
     
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    I seem to have hit a wall getting my RAM latency down or FCLK higher. Any tips on what to tweak to improve things? I can't seem to get 1900 FCLK to POST. Am on the latest AGESA (1.2.03 C or whatever). I am pretty happy if this is where I can max, but... the quest for more is always a fun game :)

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    That motherboard uses a daisy chain memory topology. So with 4 dimms, it's harder to OC memory.
    Are those dimms, single or dual rank? Four dimms of dual rank memory will be harder to OC.

    You might get better results with Rttnom and RTTWr disabled.
    Tfaw should be 16. Not much point in going lower.
    tRDRDL, will probably work at 4, and give a nice boost
    trfc might go as low as 290
     
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    The DIMMs are single rank. Thanks for the tips, I'll give them a try!
     

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    I was able to get trfc down to 299, and got it running at 14-15-14-28-40. Also did the tfaw and trdrdl changes and got latency down to 58ns. I have not had any success in disabling RTTNOM or RTTWR, it won't post at all with those set to off. I think I am pretty happy with 58ns now, my goal was < 60. Now just need to tweak my power settings as with PBO2 enabled with auto voltages I'm hitting 90 degrees in CB23 and getting around 29K MP/625 SC. I think there's room to improve. I may try reapplying my thermal compound as I figured a 360mm NZXT kraken AIO cooler should be able to handle a bit more wattage than I'm hitting (I limit to 225W in PBO options). Two cores can peak at 5125mhz under my current settings but it doesn't do it for very long, settles around 4900.
     
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    That's an decent improvement.
    Have you tried to lower ProcODT. Some MB get good results with 40 ohms. Some with even lower.
    Another thing to try is setting ClckDrvstr to 40

    You can also try to set TWR to 12 or 14
    Is your system stable with GDM disabled?
    If so, you can shave couple ns on latency.

    BTW, how did you read and write speeds improve with tose TFAW and trdrdl ?
     
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    Some moderate improvement. It varies a bit but maybe 100MB/sec more? The reduction in the L3 latency surprises me. May have had a weird run on the one posted above. Dunno. Running 14-14-14-30 now and it seems ok so far. Can't disable GDM or it won't post. ODT at 40 seems stable but didn't change much outside standard deviation of these runs.

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    reminder that HWU was caught out not tuning the Fx system properly in previous comparison videos.
     

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    AMD 4700S CPU Reviewed: Defective PS5 Chips Find New Life

    Having a memory controller for GDDR6, causes a huge latency value of 145ns.
    It's great to have memory bandwidth for the GPU, but it's really bad for the CPU.
    And having only 4+4MB of L3 cache, makes it even worse.
    Considering the huge latency of GDDR6, they should have kept the 16+16MB L3 cache from Zen2.

    Game tests are limited by pci-e speed. So they are a bit pointless.
    But test that are only CPU dependent, show a better picture of what this CPU can do.


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    === SETTINGS ===
    PTT: 100
    TDC: 60
    EDC: 120
    Boost Override: +50
    Scalar: 2x
    Cores with Asterisks are the first and second best cores in each CCD, respectively.
    Curve Optimizer (all cores at lowest possible)
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    Core  0: -15**
    Core  1: -20
    Core  2: -20
    Core  3: -20
    Core  4: -10*
    Core  5: -20
    === SCORES ===
    Cinebench R20
    Single:  - / - / -
    Multi : 4305 / 81C / 4,7GHz
     

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