The AMD Ryzen All In One Tread /Overclocking/Memory Speeds & Timings/Tweaking/Cooling Part 2

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by vbetts, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. chispy

    chispy Ancient Guru

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    AMD is on going full throttle turning the knob to 11 ... Bring it i say :D , let the good times roll ...
     
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  2. OnnA

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    AMD Zen3 to Leverage 7nm+ EUV For 20% Transistor Density Increase

    AMD "Zen 3" microarchitecture could be designed for the enhanced 7 nm+ EUV (extreme ultraviolet) silicon fabrication node at TSMC,
    which promises a significant 20 percent increase in transistor densities compared to the 7 nm DUV (deep ultraviolet) node on which its "Zen 2" processors are being built.

    In addition, the node will also reduce power consumption by up to 10 percent at the same operational load. In a late-2018 interview,
    CTO Mark Papermaster stated AMD's design goal with "Zen 3" would be to prioritize energy-efficiency, and that it would present "modest" performance improvements (read: IPC improvements) over "Zen 2."
    AMD made it clear that it won't drag 7 nm DUV over more than one microarchitecture (Zen 2), and that "Zen 3" will debut in 2020 on 7 nm+ EUV.
     
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  3. Kool64

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    This reminds me of how excited I was to upgrade my 486SX to an AMD Overdrive chip...........I'm going to have to flip a coin to decide if I go with 6 or 8 cores though lol.
     
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    MSI Issues Clarification on Next-Gen AMD CPU Support on 300-series Motherboards

    It has come to our attention that MSI Customer Support has regrettably misinformed an MSI customer with regards to potential support for next-gen AMD CPUs on the MSI X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM motherboard.
    Through this statement we want clarify the current situation.

    At this point, we are still performing extensive testing on our existing lineup of 300- and 400-series AM4 motherboards to verify potential compatibility for the next-gen AMD Ryzen CPUs.
    To be clear: Our intention is to offer maximum compatibility for as many MSI products as possible.
    Towards the launch of the next-gen AMD CPUs, we will release a compatibility list of MSI AM4 motherboards.

    Below is a full list of upcoming BIOS versions which include compatibility for the next-gen AMD APUs for our 300-Series and 400-Series AM4 motherboards based on the latest AMD Combo PI version 1.0.0.0.
    These BIOS versions are expected to be released in May this year.

    [​IMG]

    -> https://www.techpowerup.com/254669/...en-amd-cpu-support-on-300-series-motherboards
     
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    Thanks for the update @OnnA , good to hear directly from MSI , now let's wait and see where this is going. I'm hoping for the best and cross fingers for support on all the Manufacturers mobos for the upcoming cpus.
     
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    "Pick with pinch of salt.
    IMhO MSI will not do that, it will hurt their sales toooo much..."

    As i said, raised Flag only ;)
     
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    Some more progress with the Micron E-dies :D

    3600mhz cl14 @ 1.45v (tRCDRD is a stubborn sucker}

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    I have had great results @ DDR4 3600Mhz with mem test even like 12+hours no errors.Play a game and boom crash.
    I need high DRAM voltage to play games DDR4 3600Mhz but I also found it makes no difference in games for me to notice any FPS difference running DDR4 3600Mhz/3466Mhz/3200Mhz/2933Mhz so I never run DDR4 3600Mhz any more and I am fine with lower setting.
    EG: I was showing some how to overclock there Motherboard/CPU last week with PBO disabled and I just left my stuff as is after I finished helping out.

    So basically CPU 1.35v ALL core overclock PBO disabled with LLC2 4250Mhz with DDR4 3200 Mhz
     
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    Still 100% stable after more than 6 hours re-testing for stability with Aida 64 and HCI memtest over +200%

    Still 100% stable after re-testing today over 6 hours Aida64 and HCI memtest over 200% , loving the snappier windows 32GB cas 14 DDR4-3300Mhz


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    [Rumor] Zen2 yields: not as fantastic as Zeppelin yields, but very good!


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    Two years ago we wrote about the crazy high yields of Zeppelin dies but, now, we are here to talk about the yelds of Zen2 dies (About 88 mm2).
    According to our sources, the same who told us about the death of Global Foundries 20nm, the fully working Zen2 dies are about the 70% of the total production (A separate discourse needs to be entered into for the frequencies).

    Despite it doesn't sound great at first sight, that's a very good news. If we think that a fully working Intel XCC die (28 cores) has a rumored yield of 35%, this means that a 64C EPYC2 CPU has got a yield rate of 70% (8 x 8 dies).
    Almost the double of Intel yield rate!
     
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    A quick question to anyone that has done some extensive testing, which configuration would be better for real world usage? All are at 1.45v..

    3200Mhz 12-15-12-12-21
    3466Mhz 14-17-14-10-21
    3600Mhz 14-20-14-14-28

    ??
     
  12. OnnA

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    IMO 3466MHz, in real world Gaming/Work
    You need to be 100% Stable ;) and loose some Timings.

    I was on 3500MHz CL14-15-15-15 (but landed on desktop in BFV quite often, despite mem test that was OK)
    So now is @ 3430MHz CL14-15-15-14 1T
     
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    Found something interesting while playing with the new bios on the C6H. Decided to move the Streaming Store setting in the CBS section off Auto to Enabled. Was the only change that was made. Ram was no longer stable. Only change that made the ram stable again were the drive strength resistance settings; changing them to 20 Ohms from 24 Ohms. All the ram settings remained the same.

    Enabling the setting was a give and take. According to Adia64 latency increased ~0.5ns. CPU-Z showed a gain of 2 to 452 in the singe threaded score where the multi-threaded score saw a gain of 10 to 4930. Gaming saw no impact one way or another. Placebo effect or not, games appear to run smoother. As subjective as that is am leaving that setting enabled for the time being.

    Edit: Should also be noted the I have the Performance bias set to CB15.
     
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    BIOSTAR X570 Racing Series Motherboard Teased, Built For Next-Gen AMD Ryzen 3000 CPUs With PCIe Gen 4.0 Support

    The motherboard which is pictured seems to be a top of the line X570 racing series product from BIOSTAR.
    It seems to feature a full black color theme with silver accents that are part of the racing series lineup.
    The VRM is cooled off by two metallic fin heatsinks and we can also see the AM4 CPU socket next to the four DDR4 DIMM slots.
    The motherboard battery tray is located right next to the I/O cover which should be easier to approach if you’re using multiple expansion cards which can make reaching the battery a hassle.

    The motherboard comes with three PCIe 4.0 x16 slots, two of which are protected by a metal brace.
    PCIe Gen 4 is confirmed for AMD’s X570 platform so we should see all future AM4 boards supporting the new standard. There are also three PCIe 4.0 x1 slots which can be used for network or storage AICs.
    There are three M.2 slots out of which one is full length. All M.2 slots feature the heatsink to keep your NVMe drives running cooler.
    The PCH heatsink which is situated on top of the X570 chipset is actively cooled by a 7-blade fan.

    [​IMG]

    BIOSTAR is going to provide the user the ability to switch if off or on for lower noise.
    On the I/O, we get a range of connectors which include DisplayPort, HDMI, DVI, PS/2, four USB 3.1 Gen1, two USB 3.1 Gen 2 (Type-A + Type-C), a Gigabit Ethernet LAN port and a 7.1 channel HD audio jack.
    The X570 Racing motherboard from BIOSTAR seems like a very solid option.
    From what I can tell by reading the PR, I think BIOSTAR will have more than just one X570 motherboard displayed at their booth.

    4th Generation RACING Series and Next Gen-Gaming Solutions

    The BIOSTAR RACING Series of high-performance motherboards feature the latest technologies for performance and aesthetics.
    The BIOSTAR RACING Series is geared towards gamers and power users that demand performance with great stability and reliability.
    BIOSTAR will be demonstrating the 4th generation RACING Series powered by the next-generation AMD Ryzen processors to highlight its capabilities in gaming, entertainment, and professional use.
     
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    IPC Comparison:

    Note: At 1440p Ultra/High difference is minimal (if any).

     
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    I’m going to feel like a noob when I upgrade to the Ryzen 3 series and a measly 4.3 turbo. I hope some of the speed spec rumors are wrong.
     
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    AMD Ryzen 3000 Processor Samples Clock Up To 4.5 GHz, Feature 15% Better IPC

    According to the source, motherboard manufacturers have already been playing around with the AMD Ryzen 3000 CPU samples which they received earlier in Q1 2019.
    In our previous report, we also confirmed from our own sources that motherboard makers have been supplied quad-core Zen 2 CPU samples to test them with their upcoming products.
    These CPUs were early samples which were only supplied for internal testing and not necessarily indicate final retail performance or clock speeds

    The report states that the samples allegedly feature a 15% boost in terms of IPC which would be a good increase over existing Zen+ based parts that already lifted the IPC by 3% over Ryzen 1st Gen CPUs.
    It is also reported that the boost frequency for these samples is reported at up to 4.5 GHz which should scale better with higher core and higher TDP parts.
    It looks like AMD would make a serious focus on the efficiency of their 7nm processors while delivering a good boost in processor performance over the last generation parts.

    It is also reported that the memory controller has got an upgrade but it isn’t as significant as we had expected.
    Still, it would be nice to see Ryzen 3000 series running along well with the higher clocked DDR4 DIMM kits (4000 MHz+).
    The report also goes in line with the IPC improvements we had expected for the Ryzen 3000 series processors, coming in the 10-15% range.

    AMD X570 Reportedly Offers 40 PCIe Gen 4 Lanes, No Ryzen 3000 Support on A320 Chipset

    The same report also states that the X570 platform offers 40 PCIe Gen 4 lanes which would be available from the CPU and PCH.
    This means that the Ryzen CPUs and X570 PCH will split the Gen4.0 lanes over tons of I/O.
    A leaked data sheet shows that the X570 PCH is classified in the Enthusiast segment with 16 lanes dedicated to PCIe Gen 4 expansion slots (8+4+4), 8 USB 3.1 Gen 2, 4 USB 2.0, 3 SATA ports (4+4+4_ and an x4 Gen 4 PCIe Uplink port.
    The rest of the PCIe Gen 4 expansion would run over the CPU lanes.

    [​IMG]

    It is also said that X570 motherboards have encountered a problem with the PCIe 4.0 speeds and a new version of the motherboards are being tested right now which should be ready for launch in a couple of months when Ryzen 3000 series officially hits the market.
    While X570 is the enthusiast tier PCH, there would also be B550 casual audiences but would lack PCIe Gen 4.0 support.
     
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    Here is my settings:

    cmd as admin:

    bcdedit /set useplatformclock false
    bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock
    bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes

    In Device manager: Disable HPET
    Restart & Test.

     

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