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The AMD Ryzen All In One Tread /Overclocking/Memory Speeds & Timings/Tweaking/Cooling Part 2

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by vbetts, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. Clouseau

    Clouseau Ancient Guru

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    Just passing along general information that may help. When playing around with the new 0.0.7.2 Agesa based bios, there were two ram timings that functioned as a lynch pin for all the others. Once those two timings were discovered and set, it allowed me to test how changing the other settings affected ram through put based off of the Aida64 dram bench results. The two settings were Trcdrd and Trdwr. Having set those settings according to the Dram Calculator's suggestion, it really did not matter what the other settings were within reason...all were stable at no voltage change according to Testmem5 using 1usmus' settings. DRAM voltage stayed at 1.4100v.

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  2. chispy

    chispy Ancient Guru

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    On the Asus support page for Asus motherboards all the software have been updated ( chipset drivers , lan drivers , sata drivers , utilities ) as well as a brand new Bios , check if your model have the updated software and latest bios as i believe there is some fixes on the software and new Bios are going in the right direction. Highly recommend to update.

    Example for Asus CH 7 Hero -

    Latest Bios:
    Version 2103 - 2019/04/11 - 10.29 MBytes

    ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO BIOS 2103
    "1. Update AM4 ComboPI 0.0.7.2
    2. Improved Memory Stability"


    Latest Chipset drivers:
    Version 18.50.16.01 - 2019/04/10 - 175.63 MBytes

    Chipset
    AMD Chipset Driver V5.12.0.38(18.50.16.01) for Windows 10 64-bit.
     
  3. Jagman

    Jagman Ancient Guru

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    Updating my drivers now but MSI still haven't got the latest BIOS, with AGESA 0072, for my board out yet :(
     
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  4. gerardfraser

    gerardfraser Ancient Guru

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  5. keenan

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    Finally upgraded my aging X58 system to a 1600X, MSI B450 Tomahawk and 2 x 8gb Crucial Ballistix 3000Mhz.

    Did some quick tests and these sticks are Micron E-Die. Running them at 1.45v

    Timings I would like to get lower, but just a small change results in a no post.

    • TRCDRD (17)
    • TRC (56)
    • TRFC (500)

    If anyone has some advice, I would like to try some ideas ;)

    Here's my progress so far..

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  7. Jagman

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    ^ LOL, it's the Event HoRyzen..... Once it sucks you in you can't get out :eek: :rolleyes:
     
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  8. Jagman

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  9. gerardfraser

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    Yeah it is not for everyone.I used and Modded MSI X470 BIOS without problems but MSI new BIOS is excellent and I bet they will release new BIOS for your board soon.
     
  10. DW75

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    RAM overclocking has definitely been improved with the latest BIOS 4603 on my Asus ROG STRIX X370-F GAMING board. On my Corsair DDR4 3466 RGB RAM which is Samsung B-Die, I am currently running 3533 with 16-17-17-16-36-1T timings at 1.35V with 100 percent stability. I will probably try 3600 at some point, or see if I can get 16-16-16-16-36-1T at 3533.
     
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  11. Horus-Anhur

    Horus-Anhur Member Guru

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    That's a nice result. What settings are you using?
    Can you post a screenshot of Ryzen Timming checker.
     
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  12. OnnA

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    MSI Betrays AMD's Socket AM4 Longevity Promise: No Zen2 for 300-series?

    Pick with pinch of salt.
    IMhO MSI will not do that, it will hurt their sales toooo much...
    But then again only ASUS & Asrock have Zen2 BIOS ready for older X370

    I like ASUS, Hero VI is one of best MB from them.
    I will Buy new Hero in time :cool:
    (to support them, now we have ZEN2 BIOS Ready - 6903 & 6808)

    https://www.techpowerup.com/254634/...-am4-longevity-promise-no-zen2-for-300-series
     
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    Hope that is just a terrible customer service rep. Would be a huge blow to their reputation if it becomes official.
     
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  14. DW75

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    I tried 3533 at 16-16-16-16-36 last night, but was not stable. It caused the classic internet instability issues and disconnects that happen when RAM gets pushed too far. This was with 1.36V, 1.37V, and 1.38V. I can get 100 percent stability though with 3466 at 16-16-16-16-36-1T or 3533 at 16-17-17-16-36-1T. I decided just to go back to 3333 at 15-15-15-15-35-1T. The comp is just more snappy with this speed and timings.
     
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  15. Agonist

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    No bios ready yet for my AsRock X370 Killer SLI AC yet but its ok cause I I still have to save up for a Zen 2 cpu. I dont feel I need a new board and ram imho to upgrade my R5 1600. I may even just get a 2600x . But a 3500x 6 core will fly. I see no point on me getting a 8core/16thread cpu for my gaming rig. Id kill to have a 2700x in my server though to replace my ancient dual x5550 x58 server with 24gb dddr3 1333 ECC. Honestly most games I just launch Ryzenmaster, put 3.75ghz profile. I only use the 4ghz profile for benchmarks that need the extra cpu punch. As for MSI, they are flat out stupid if they do that.
     
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    My bottom tier ASRock b450m pro 4 is already primed with .0.7.2 now I just have to hope the VRM is.
     
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    Updated the four AM4 Mobos in my house today with the latest Bios supporting new cpus - Asus CH 7 ( X470 ) , Asus CH 6 ( X370 ) , Asus Strix B350-F Gaming ( B350 ) and ASRock AB350-Pro4 ( B350 ). As posted before this new Bios improves memory performance , compatibility and stability as well as adds new Agesa code 0.0.7.2 alongside the support for the new incoming cpus very soon Highly recommended to update your Bios to the latest on your motherboard vendor website.

    Guys who have MSI motherboards can can you verify that you guys have updates for a new Bios on MSI website for the new upcoming cpus ? If not please submit a report ticket to msi asking for a new bios that support your mobos with the upcoming cpus as it is not fair that everyone else manufacturers are pushing slowly and steady new Bios for the upcoming cpus, if my low end , old Asus and ASRock B350 Mobos have an update for new cpus i do not know why MSI x370 and B350 cannot support new cpus :confused: in my opinion that is a Dick move from MSI who wants to sell more mobos with the new chipset x570. AMD did promise backwards compatibility from AM4 until year 2020 for new cpus ( that includes every one of the motherboards chipsets ). Raise your voice and let it be heard to MSI this is not ok.
     
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    Dang :/ , if you still have an MSI board raise your voice on msi support forums and msi support page ~4 months and not one Bios update for MSI mobos for new cpus , no new Agesa code ? That's unacceptable in my opinion.
     
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    AMD " 50th anniversary " Ryzen 2700x cpu leaked and updated information ! New cpu 50th anniversary to be released on May 1st !
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    AMD It's about to get rock and rolling non stop beginning starting on May 1st , 20019 ( 2 weeks from now )


    AMD's 50th Anniversary is fast approaching on May 1, and several new postings at online retailers have revealed that AMD is on the cusp of releasing a new 50th Anniversary Ryzen 7 2700X to celebrate.

    Aside from the mention of a bundled Wraith Prism LED cooler, the listings tell us little about the chip, including what differentiates it from existing Ryzen 7 2700X models. The chip is listed for preorder at $340.95, which is well above the typical ~$295 street price, but that's to be expected with a collector's item.

    Several of the sites haven't listed retail availability yet, but on further investigation, we found a retailer that claims the part will become available on April 30, the day before AMD's anniversary celebration.

    Releasing a commemorative chip certainly isn't an entirely new phenomenon: Intel released the Core i7-8086K last year to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the x86 instruction set architecture. That chip came with special tuning that pushed clock frequencies up to 5.0 GHz, a first at the time, and also came with a signed certificate from ex-CEO Brian Krzanich.

    We may see a similar approach with AMD's purported new chip. Unfortunately, the Anniversary Edition Ryzen 7 2700X listings don't include clock speeds, so this will remain an open question for now. AMD also chose to stick with the same 2700X naming, so we don't expect any other significant changes to the chip, like more cores or cache. Instead, AMD may include some type of commemorative packaging or engraving on the chip. It's logical to assume there will be some type of certificate enclosed, perhaps signed by Lisa Su.

    AMD has also released special edition chips in the past–the company released its Limited Edition Ryzen 7 2700 and Ryzen 5 2600X MAX bundles last year. Even though those chips, which come with a better Wraith Max cooler than the standard models, still haven't made their way to American shores, you can still find them for sale overseas.

    AMD is clearly gearing up its 50th-anniversary celebration. Today the company posted an open invitation to the public to its Markham Open House event, which occurs on the company's 50th anniversary on May 1st. AMD has also created a special 50th Anniversary celebration page that touts its advances over the years, so we expect to hear much more from the company as it nears its anniversary.

    On an interesting side note, Intel hosted a giveaway for 8,086 of its commemorative chips. AMD opened a "buyback program" for the winners of Intel's Core i7-8086K, instead offering a Threadripper 1950X in exchange. We aren't sure if AMD will also run a sweepstakes to give away the new 50th Anniversary Ryzen 7 2700X processors, but it is a possibility.

    We've reached out to AMD for comment and will update as necessary.


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    Thanks to Tomshardware and @Dayman58 on Twitter for the leaked info : Sources - https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-50th-anniversary-ryzen-7-2700x-price-performance,39080.html , https://twitter.com/Dayman58/status/1117905358469705728

    More information posted here: https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-50th-anniversary-edition-cpu-leak/
     
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