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The AMD Ryzen All In One Tread /Overclocking/Memory Speeds & Timings/Tweaking/Cooling Part 2

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by vbetts, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. vbetts

    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

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    Voltage is the key. IF you want just 4.0GHz, set static 1.25V. That should be enough. If board has LLC, set it to some middle value. Compare voltage reading in BIOS and in OS.
    Run some basic stress tests. Key is not to run it for long. Key to finding issues is running many load and idle cycles. So cinebench R15 on all cores. And once it is done, start again.
    If it is good, take down voltage till you run into troubles. Then there is chance of L1 errors if voltage is too low which happen at rare occasion. Observable in HWiNFO64 (at bottom - red line will appear).
    But 4.0GHz should be achievable out of the box with XFR and PBO even with all cores under load.
     
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    Best Gaming PC Under $720 September 2018


    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-Core CPU $165
    GPU: AMD XFX Radeon RX 580 8GB GTS XXX Edition 8GB $250
    Motherboard: Gigabyte AB350M-DS3H Micro ATX AM4 $50
    RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB 2800MHz $71
    Storage: Crucial MX500 250GB SSD $60
    Case: Phanteks P300 Tempered Glass (Black) $60

    Power Supply: SeaSonic G Series SSR-550RM 550W 80 PLUS GOLD $69 (Yup i've adjusted this one for Quality build $20 more is not a big deal)

    Here -> https://wccftech.com/best-gaming-pc-under-700-september-2018/
     
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    Um, anyway I decided to turn SMT off for the time being, that sorted things out.

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    Turning off SMT dropped the temps by 10c. Cinebench run maxed out at 45c, also a few games saw temps at 34-38c. o_O

    Very happy with that! :D
     
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    RUMOR: AMD Zen 2 Samples Already In RTG Labs, Has 8 Cores, 16 Threads and Clocks Rated Up To 4.5 GHz

    With the reveal of AMD’s next-generation Zen 2 CPU core soon approaching, the latest rumors have revealed that Radeon Technologies Group already received one sample for optimizations.
    The rumor comes from a forum member at HardOCP who’s known to have some reputation on the forums when it comes to AMD related leaks.

    AMD Zen 2 “3rd Gen Ryzen” CPU Arrived in RTG Labs – 8 Cores, 16 Threads, Up To 4.5 GHz Early Sample

    There are not a lot of details mentioned but first of all, you may be wondering why does the AMD RTG (Radeon Technologies Group) have the sample this early. The reason is said to be changes to the interconnect which requires RTG to make adjustments for their video card drivers.
    The sample in question was based on the new Zen 2 core architecture which AMD had completed the design of earlier this year.

    The Zen 2 CPU featured 8 cores and 16 threads. Judging by the configuration, we can tell that this would be part of the third generation Ryzen mainstream family. The chip featured a base clock of 4.0 GHz and a boost clock of 4.5 GHz. It was tested with DDR4-3600 MHz (CL15)
    memory along with a Radeon RX Vega 64 Liquid graphics card. The test platform was an engineering motherboard with an AMD logo.

    It may be based on the new chipset but AMD did confirm when they launched Ryzen that their AM4 socket is designed to be future proof so the possibility of current motherboards to support next-gen Zen 2 CPUs is highly likely.
    Some performance tidbits were also talked about with the Zen 2 CPU sample already proving to be great versus Intel’s Core i7-8700K. But since it is a very early sample, it currently crashes a lot as mentioned by the forum member. It is said that the chip crashed so often that testing had to be done multiple times to complete otherwise the chip just crashed before the test finished.
     
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    It's a bit hard to say anything related to the crash information .. is it due to the CPU or the new chipset or a combination ?
    But CPU samples crashing this close to release doesn't sound good.
     
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    ^^ Don't worry, it will be OK for sure :D
    Maby AMD is trying to get too much OC out of it?

    For me ZEN2 at 4200-4400MHz will be suffice for gaming @ 1440p
     
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    Yeah it'll be fine, early engineering sample on a motherboard with an early BIOS revision. Zen 2, by all accounts, has been significantly changed (improved) over the original design.
     
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    We will be getting some words about the new Agesa code 1006 Bios updates soon :) , expect lots of new Bios incoming this month for AM4 and x399 ...
     
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    ....... lol
     
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    ???
     
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    No, nuthin' i thought that new BIOS is out for Hero VI ;)
     
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    We suppose to get new Bios with the new Agesa code at mid/late October as per Elmor from Asus.
     
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    Yup, i know :D
    1.0.0.6 i suppose.
     
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    :D lol , i suppose 1.0.0.6 too , we are on the same page bro.
     
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    AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX & 2920X, 24 Core & 12 Core, CPUs Launching on 29th October

    With the AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX 32 core and Ryzen Threadripper 2950X 16 core models already out in the retail market, the red team is now prepping to launch the more affordable of the “WX” and “X” series Threadripper CPUs.
    These include the 24 core Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX that would cost $1299 US and the 12 core Ryzen Threadripper 2920X that would cost $649 US. Detailed specifications of these processors are mentioned below.

    The 2nd Gen Ryzen Threadripper family is growing! We’re pleased to announce the Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX and 2920X processors will be available worldwide on October 29, 2018. pic.twitter.com/R8ajDlBxzK

    — AMD Ryzen (@AMDRyzen) October 5, 2018

    AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX 24 Core $1299 US Processor – Insane Performance at an Extreme Value
    The Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX will feature 24 cores and 48 threads for a price of just $1299 US. Intel’s 12 core chip in comparison costs $1200 US so we are looking at twice the number of cores at $100 US premium.
    The chip features clock speeds of 3.0 GHz base and 4.0 GHz boost (4.2 GHz XFR).

    We will be looking at 64 MB of L3 cache and 12 MB of L2 cache which totals 76 MB total cache size.
    The chip will feature the same amount of PCIe lanes as the 2990WX and will have a TDP of 250W and would be supported by existing X399 motherboards, including the refreshed designs which were released the last month by motherboard manufacturers and should be better suited for the higher TDP requirements of the “WX” series lineup.

    AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2920X 12 Core For $649 US – 12 Zen+ Cores at $100 US Less Than Its Predecessor

    The Ryzen Threadripper 2920X will feature the same core config as its predecessor, the 1920X. We are looking at the same 12 cores and 24 threads.
    At the same time, the chip will be enhanced by the new Zen+ cores and provide higher clock speeds of 3.5 GHz base and 4.3 GHz boost with a 180W TDP. The chip will also come at a $100 US lesser price tag than its predecessor, at just $699 USD.

    In addition to the product launches on 29th October, AMD will also be delivering the new Dynamic Local Mode for “WX” series processors.
    The new Mode would allow apps that prefer local DRAM access to automatically receive it, and apps that scale to many cores will be free to do so.
    AMD is suggesting that this would help increase gaming performance by up to 47%. The option to enable Dynamic Local Mode would be made available in the Ryzen Master Utility through an update on 29th October.

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    What is the Benefit of Dynamic Local Mode?

    In the applications we have tested to date, AMD has observed performance improvements of up to 47% with Dynamic Local Mode enabled.
    The below diagram shows a variety of games and applications aided by the new feature, and AMD expects other applications that we have not yet analyzed may also benefit.
    But we also want to be clear about the fact that not every application will see a benefit, as not every application demonstrates the threading behaviors that Dynamic Local Mode is designed to assist.
    Even so, it’s clear that some processes really take a liking to Dynamic Local Mode and it’s quite satisfying to see such a speedup from a new and free feature for your platform.

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    How is Dynamic Local Mode implemented?
    Dynamic Local Mode is implemented as a Windows 10 background service that measures how much CPU time each thread on the system is consuming.
    These threads are then ranked from most to least demanding, and the top threads are automatically pushed to the CPU cores that contain direct memory access.
    Once these cores are consumed by work, additional threads are scheduled and executed on the next available CPU core.
    This process is continuous while the service is running, ensuring the most demanding threads always get preferential time on cores with local memory. (As a corollary, insignificant threads are pushed to other dies.)

    via AMD
     
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    Dynamic Local mode
    Why do we need Ryzen master to use it ? Why not build it into the chipset drivers so it's done automatically ?
    As I understand it this will only be available to Threadripper "WX" and not Ryzen cpu's ?
    Why not Ryzen CPU's ? Is it because of the NUMA architecture on ThreadRippper ?

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    I just made an Online Service Request with AMD to get some clarification on this. I don't want to be cheated of a potential 47% performance increase.
     
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