Team Group Cardea M.2 SSD for Gamers

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Team Group announces the launch of its fastest storage solution designed for gamers with the introduction of the T-FORCE CARDEA M.2 solid-state drive. Available in 240 and 480GB the M.2 SSD utilizes x...

    Team Group Cardea M.2 SSD for Gamers
     
  2. AlmondMan

    AlmondMan Master Guru

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    "How do we market this normal SSD for gamers?"
    "Call it something 'gamey', like 'POWER', 'ULTIMATE', 'KILLER'"
    "What about 'FORCE'?"
    "Yea, go with that! And make it ugly. Just make the heatsink jaggy and weird, it's not about function, it just has to look like it's needed."
    "OK, and how about making it red? Red goes faster, as the memes say."
    "Perfect!"
     
  3. DiceAir

    DiceAir Maha Guru

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    hahah nice one. Don't forget about RGB. I feel TGB is nice in most products these days but I'm not willing to pay the extra for RGB lights.

    All the need to do is ad a fancy red heatsink that looks big even on stupid parts of the ssd. It's like many gaming products that actually fail as being "gaming" products.
     
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    Well, performance vs price wise Samsung 960 EVO 250GB... EVO is ~20% faster and $10 cheaper.
    But this thing has undeniably better cooling. Unfortunately it comes at cost of PCIe Slot and space in PC Case. I would still prefer M.2 slot on MB as that allows for slimmer PC.

    I want my next build to be slim, that comes with need of riser cards/cables for 1x PCIe and 1x PCI or PCIe to PCI conversion. Adding 3rd card like this one into mix will already impact "slimness".
     

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    PCIe slot? This is m.2, no need for PCIe addin card
     
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    How soon someone make heatsinks for battery on motherboard?
     
  7. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    Yeah, the image. You are right :D
    I did let myself to be confused by: "Available in 240 and 480GB the M.2 SSD utilizes x4 PCIE 3.0 for up to 2600MB/s read speeds along with NVMe and TRIM support."
    And considered that it is M.2 put on PCIe card with huge heatsink. Then it is quite OK.
     
  8. CronoGraal

    CronoGraal Ancient Guru

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    i remember when i bought into the whole "cool as possible!!" thing and had zalman heatsink for my hard drive...behind a fan controller with small fans to blow air at the HD heatsink.
     
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    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    Heat kills slowly everything. Especially SSDs.
     
  10. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    It uses 4x PCIe lanes, so that assessment is correct. I'll request a review unit :)
     

  11. LiviuTM

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    The cooling module could be useful, but 3 years warranty..?
     
  12. FrostNixon

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    I love how they create something for "gamers" and put a ridiculous price on it. What kind of a gamer needs that much speed? 0.01% of the gaming community, most likely less.
     
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    cant 360 noscope with ordinary m.2
     
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    bruh, dont talk **** about teamgroup. theyve been making some of the best OCing ram out there for ten years now :wanker:
     
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    Can't trickshot with SSD.
     

  16. Fox2232

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    It was definitely my bad. As for the review, it would be interesting. But still, even if it was priced as Samsung 960 EVO 250GB, it would be trading speed for cooler operation. That is quite dilemma right there.
    Prices of those drives are already great. I love them. I paid twice as much for my 1st SSD which was SATA2: 128GB 250GB/s (iirc Kingston V100).
    When I moved to Vertex4 SATA3: 128GB 500GB/s (Noticeable jump in system operation, boot time.)
    Adding Vertex 460A SATA3: 240GB 500GB/s (Used for games, and it is magnitude faster than Raid0 from 2 7200rpm drives, I use it for games which I do not play as much.)

    I would not use M.2 for OS, it is waste, normal SSD is fast enough, but working with any large project, You get to notice drastic benefits.
    Even opening ARK Dev Kit costs you 10GB ram + 8GB swap (on my 16GB ram system). It takes time to load. Compiling takes much more time.
    But when I had it on Raid0, loading was 5 times slower due to nature of UE4. (Using 130 thousand files.)

    Secondly today when large textures are used, faster drive is huge quality of life improvement for loading times. And it can even remove microstutter caused by game not triggering precache of resources soon enough as you decide to turn around.
    (Yes, it is developer's fault, but you do not have to suffer from it.)
     
  17. Agent-A01

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    No it's not a dilemma.

    Get one(or two, 2nd one only reduces temps by a few c) of these

    Here's what i did for my 960 Pro 1TB

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    I got both of these for about 13 USD off of ebay.

    Min/Max temps from a couple runs of Crystaldisk bench.

    Before
    33c idle 62c max

    After
    25c idle 39c max.

    Well worth it if you plan on keeping it for a while.

    One thing i did do is replace the stock thermal tape included with fujipoly 11mk/w .5mm pads.(why you see those green bands)

    Much higher thermal conductivity than tape which is around 1-2mk/w.

    There are other options too but they are thicker.

    Alphacool HDX

    and this on ebay

    If you plan on keeping one of these NVMe for a while, i would suggest getting a heatsink.
     
  18. gx-x

    gx-x Maha Guru

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    If companies thought 65C or w/e were a problem, they would include heatsink. No sane company would risk huge losses to RMA for the sake of saving a buck on a heatsink per unit. And they do add heatsinks where they are needed.
    So, all in all, read the first post in this topic :D
     
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    Thanks. That's reasonable. Is there electric insulation layer too? Like some plastic (tape like layer) in between heatsink and thermal pad? Or is paint all that prevents electric contact in case of some wire being too tall?

    @gx-x: Well, 65°C in PC. Put it in notebook and it is death sentence. SSD degrade to heat a lot. It may survive 3, maybe even 5 years of warranty manufacturer provides, but that's all manufacturer cares about.
     
  20. wavetrex

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    My Plextor M8Pe died the next day after I bought it. Most likely due to heat, because I tortured it continuously for several hours. (Installs, benchmarks, some torrents, etc.)

    It didn't have a heatsink and quite possible some chip on it desoldered due to the extreme heat it was putting out ( 90+ degrees ).

    ~~

    THIS thing however might be doing just fine under the same conditions.
    I wish more companies would make proper heatsinks for these little M.2 furnaces...
     

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