Swiftech H20-X20 Edge Series High-Performance Liquid Cooling Kit

Rouchon Industries Inc. dba Swiftech today announced the release of the H20-X20 EDGE series of all-in-one liquid cooling kits. The kits are composed of a patent pending heat exchanger combining pump...

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Not bad,Swiftech stuff are pretty good,all my custom WC parts are Swiftech apart from the pump.

 

Wow, thats pretty damn pricey imho. I'd almost rather getting a real kit for that much.

 

Really, it is a real kit. And its more convenient, because the pump is in the rad.

 

Interesting product, wouldn't mind knowing how it performs. Wonder if there any reviews anywhere yet.

 

That could save quite a lot of space in case... Good.

 

very interesting idea but will it be better/same/worse than a normal h20 loop ??

 

this is nice, you can connect two hd 5850 and an i7 to the 320 rad... hmmm

 

$150-200 price tag would make it great.

 

I think the price is correct for this type of watercooling performance setup.

- Rad swiftech MCR320QR : ~70 euros

- Pump MCP 355: ~70 euros

- Reservoir mounted on the rad : ~40 euros

- Apogee XT: ~70 euros

- ( if you add 3x Gentle Typhoon: 3x 15 euros ... )

- Add the tubing and the connectors ....

lol i have finish 10 minutes ago to build a custom WC setup, 1 rad 360mm (top of the case )+ 1x 240mm ( front of the case ).

Building the pump on the same place of the rads will have save me a lot of place...

The Rad is really good, certainly one of the best you can buy, the pump is the same many ppls use ( aka laing DC1++ or MCP355 with a custom top Acetal ), the Apogee XT is a really good waterblock ( just behind the EK Supreme HF, but well the Supreme is actually the best waterblock )

We are far of the component used in "normal kits" prebuild ... it's mostly what use a lot of Watercoolers for their custom build.

The only problem i see is the place of the reservoir, it can be a problem with some case.

+ need wait a test for see what real performance are .

 

So, its kinda like WC for noobs like me then? But then, its way too expensive for me... Guess I'll never get any WC for my system due to the price and I always afraid of leak from DIY WC.

 

THAT IS PRICY HUH CPU BLOCK IS

CPU COOLING : APOGEE™ GTZ Ci7 Extreme Performance CPU water-block $59.95

RADS WHERE THEY GET YA LOL N THEY ARENT REV2 VERISON

MCR220-DRIVE-B Dual 120mm heat exchanger (bare, without pump), Black, including 1/2" & 3/8" fittings, and mounting screws $134.95
MCR220-DRIVE Dual 120mm heat exchanger with integrated pump, Black, including 1/2" & 3/8" fittings, and mounting screws $196.95
MCR320-DRIVE-B Triple 120mm heat exchanger (bare, without pump), Black, including 1/2" & 3/8" fittings, and mounting screws $147.95
MCR320-DRIVE Triple 120mm heat exchanger with integrated pump, Black, including 1/2" & 3/8" fittings, and mounting screws $209.95

 

Why not a h70 or something?

 

Ive been looking at the swiftech water cooling system for my next build this will definetly be something to consider, would be good to see some reviews. as for price it does cost a bit, but likely the tax man just gave me $4500

 

lol, no, he gave you back money that was already your's. He took too much.

 

I'm down for $150. To make it cheaper, they could just not have fans for fan guards. I like to use my own fans anyway and I like to go ballsy with no fan guards, yeah!

 

That would be way too much overload on the rad,you would only manage a mild overclock with cpu and gpus if you did that as the temps would be too high,as a rule i follow this....1x triple rad for cpu and chipset.....1x triple rad for gpus....this is where the Corsair Obsidian case comes into its own,you can install 1x triple rad in the top,1x triple rad in the bottom and 1 xtriple rad on the back using a radbox...which is serious overkill.

 

for anyone that missed it, their link says they had an i7 920 @ 4.1ghz 1.39V @ 45C which i find pretty good, too bad its 300$+

 

This kit isn't for anyone who wouldn't be buying a full custom watercooling kit anyway.

It's just more convenient because everything's attached to the rad.

 

Hello 3D Guru forum members, this is Gabriel Rouchon, AKA "Gabe" in the US, I am Swiftech's CEO. I saw a lot of comments here that I would like to respond to.

As someone else said below, it is a "real" kit, made of the same basic components you can find in the H20 Ultima XT for example. We "just" combined the reservoir and the pump into the radiator. I placed just in quotation marks because this is patent pending technology, and it was quite a challenge!

You might want to read this article entitled "Dual Loops, the facts", and and this one entitled "Actual influence of flow rates on system temps" These white papers were also published on another forum and are now being used as reference by many eXtreme users. The data compiled there comes from these kits.

This is a NORMAL loop , and it should actually perform better because there is less flow restriction.

Unless I misunderstand you, the water-block that comes with the kit is an XT class block, not a GTZ.

Also, you are listing above the first generation MCR drive. The H20-X20 Edge kits, come with revision 2 of the MCR X20 Drive heat exchangers, and prices are listed below:

MCR220-DRIVE-B (Rev 2) - Dual 120mm heat exchanger (bare, without pump), Black, including 1/2" fittings, and mounting screws: $131.95

MCR220-DRIVE (Rev 2) - Dual 120mm heat exchanger with integrated pump, Black, including 1/2" fittings, and mounting screws: $212.95

MCR320-DRIVE-B (Rev 2) -Triple 120mm heat exchanger (bare, without pump), Black, including 1/2" fittings, and mounting screws : $144.95

MCR320-DRIVE (Rev 2) - Triple 120mm heat exchanger with integrated pump, Black, including 1/2" fittings, and mounting screws : $225.95

You can certainly get a CoolIT or a Corsair kit for less than half the price. Will they meet your needs for integrating other components -no, since they are close loops; will they perform as well? probably not either.. but I know many people who really do not care about a 5 to 10 degrees difference on their CPU temps, so the two types of kits can certainly co-exist, at least for now, since they cater to two different segments of the market.

Ok, let's discuss pricing. I think that there is a perception issue here, which I can certainly understand. In a conventional kit, you get 4 separate components, whereas here you only get two. So it is natural to think that the later should be cheaper.

In reality, the 4 components are still there, but 3 of them got combined into 1. The reservoir is still there, and making that shape out of sheet metal is quite expensive (equal to the cost of a Micro Res for example); the pump housing is also there, soldered to the radiator body, and making it out of CNC brass costs an order of magnitude more than the standard injection molded plastic top of the MCP350/355/DDC pumps. So the current production costs are still quite high.

The real question you could ask yourself is this: do these kits bring more value than equivalent performance kits such as the H20 Ultima XT for example, which have been leading the kit market for over 5 years? H20-220 Apex XT: $309.95 - H20-220 Edge: $309.95 - Equal top performance, broader range of utilizations, simpler to install, more reliable (less potentially leaky joints)..

You tell me.

Now, if your budget is limited to the $150 range, and understanding that your budget cannot be stretched, then there are cheaper kits out there, and even if they are less versatile, or lower performance, as long as they do the job for you, it's works!

Incidentally, another solution for you would also be to get the MCR Drive (Rev2) without the fans, since you have plenty at home already, and build the rest of the kit yourself.

Sorry to say it so bluntly, but there is quite a myth going on here. Please read the articles I published and linked above ("Dual loops, the facts"). One needs to clearly understand that in the real world, CPU and GPU's never get loaded concurrently. See the data in the article, it is quite edifying. In fact, there are follow up posts of people who dismantled their setup after reading this article and who testify of the performance gains they got. I am not sure about the etiquette in this forum, so I am hesitant to openly name another forum here.. but you can certainly PM me, and I will give you the link.

Very true!