Stuttering and input lag on my PC.

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  1. kelzthetraxer

    kelzthetraxer Member

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    So I’ve tried disabling all these things, changing some settings in that optimizer app, yet still nothing. I’ve Googled about it now and it seems like it can be a lot of things not even related to the driver itself, like Windows Firewall. I don’t want to disable it, but they say it can work. There are so many variables that it seems like it will be a really time consuming task before I’ll find out the cause for that high latency.

    The good news is, I actually decided to disable Hyperthreading for a bit longer than 5 minutes for the first time ever and it seems like it genuinely helped. Even after a whole round in Battlefield 4, my mouse felt responsive enough. Same with Tekken 7, it still slows down a bit after some time, but it doesn’t feel like slow motion anymore, which is nice.

    I’ll keep this thread updated whenever something changes.
     
  2. Smough

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    All of this points to some motherboard issue, even physical damage.

    >Same with Tekken 7, it still slows down a bit after some time,

    This is wrong.
     
  3. kelzthetraxer

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    Why is it wrong? I can literally feel how slower the game becomes versus how fast everything is flowing when I first start playing it. With Hyperthreading on, even an unexperienced eye could see that. The game started to feel like slow motion the more I played, my inputs lagged behind and it was nearly unplayable, so I would like to hear your explanation.
     
  4. mbk1969

    mbk1969 Ancient Guru

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    @kelzthetraxer

    I think Smough meant that such behaviour of the game is wrong, something is wrong with the rig/OS.

    To me such behaviour looks like a memory leak. You can test it by disabling the page file and playing the game - if it will crush with error like "out of memory" then there is a leak.
     
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  5. kelzthetraxer

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    Ok, I see. I just did an extensive test and with hyperthreading disabled I do indeed get a much better responsiveness, it felt soo much better on a big map in BF4, I could finally aim properly even there was a lot going on in the scene, whereas before my mouse would get very slow and laggy. Such a relief.

    Also, my high latency issue seems to be (randomly) fixed. What I did today was just updating the internet driver back to the newest version, did numerous test and ndis is finally calm, no such big numbers as before.

    Here’s step by step of what I did:
    1. Went back to an older driver
    2. Disabled every powersaving options in ethernet configuration, including things like interrupt moderation
    3. Used TCP Optimizer app and changed some settings there (gaming related ones)
    4. Updated to the newest driver without uninstalling the older one

    I don’t know, no more high latency going on, but I feel like it will come back, it feels quite unclear even now. But my system still works like it did, it still stutters from time to time, so I think I’m going to install the latest Windows again and gonna try getting that fixed timer.

    Also, I wanna say that my system becomes much more “stuttery” when I simply leave it idling even for about 5 minutes. Whenever I come back, I see a lot of stutters going on. If I use it non stop after turning it on, stutters still come back, but it takes much longer. This happened on Windows 8.1 as well. Any ideas?

    EDIT: Here's DPC results that I'm consistently getting today. I did about 5 tests overall.
    EDIT2: About the memory leak. I was told before that pagefile or something along these lines could be the culprit for stutters as well. I should try disabling it indeed.

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    DPC Info
    
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    CPU Usage Summing By Module For the Whole Trace
    
    CPU Usage from 0 us to 551596532 us:
    
         CPU 0 Usage,      CPU 1 Usage,      CPU 2 Usage,      CPU 3 Usage,
         usec      %,      usec      %,      usec      %,      usec      %, Module
          677   0.00,        29   0.00,        66   0.00,        30   0.00, CLASSPNP.SYS
            0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, FLTMGR.SYS
        65575   0.01,       121   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, HDAudBus.sys
            7   0.00,        10   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, Ndu.sys
          156   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, Ntfs.sys
         4276   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, USBPORT.SYS
           27   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, WdFilter.sys
       133413   0.02,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, Wdf01000.sys
       309930   0.06,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, afd.sys
        40062   0.01,     19330   0.00,     33509   0.01,     15074   0.00, atikmdag.sys
      3235953   0.59,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, dxgkrnl.sys
         2244   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, dxgmms2.sys
           13   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, hal.dll
            7   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, igdkmd64.sys
         2759   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, kbdhid.sys
           12   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, mslldp.sys
        55448   0.01,     12775   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, ndis.sys
        59654   0.01,     36847   0.01,     55393   0.01,     88013   0.02, ntoskrnl.exe
            8   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, pdc.sys
            2   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, rdbss.sys
            1   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, rdyboost.sys
         2499   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, storahci.sys
       100003   0.02,     55139   0.01,     42495   0.01,     34241   0.01, storport.sys
         9283   0.00,      5384   0.00,      3414   0.00,      1663   0.00, tcpip.sys
            2   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, volsnap.sys
     
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  6. Truder

    Truder Ancient Guru

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    I have some questions for you:-

    Are you running multiple monitors?
    Is your GPU running at 16x pice link speed?
    Is your GPU maintaining high clocks or is it frequently changing clock speeds fast and often?
    When you get the stutters, how frequent are they? For example are they steady and constant? Such as a stutter every 2 seconds, or are they infrequent and have no pattern?

    Also, just bear in mind, disabling page file, that can cause some programs to break and introduce other problems.
     
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    Download this app https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/alternative-event-viewer-for-windows.431209/, run it.
    If you can`t find "TaskScheduler/Operational" log in the grid then untick option "Logs to ignore: empty logs" and press "Refresh logs" button.
    If you still can`t find "TaskScheduler/Operational" log in the grid then untick option "Logs to ignore: disabled logs" and press "Refresh logs" button. Then locate and enable it.
    Select "TaskScheduler/Operational" log and press button "Selected logs subscriptions: all events".
    Wait for 5 minutes (the period after which stutters begin) and see whether some tasks are scheduled to launch when user becomes idle.
     
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  8. kelzthetraxer

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    1. Yes
    2. It is maintaining them, but depending how demanding the game is. Anyways, stutter still happen even with fixed clocks, because they are something like "frametime" stutters, there are no FPS drops.
    3. This is how it goes 9 out of 10 times: I boot my PC up and everything is running smooth. Scrolling in Chrome is smooth, games are smooth. Then I start gaming and my mouse gradually becomes less responsive, more stutters occur. It gets on my nerves so I stop gaming (mostly because of how slow the game becomes, stutters aren't that big of a deal), open Chrome and voila, it also stutters when scrolling (like on this page). Youtube videos stutter too, but they do not report any dropped frames. Again, like a frametime stutter.

    However, it seems like we are going in a right direction, because I've done many things @mbk1969 suggested, as well as some other things I did myself and already am seeing pretty big improvements.

    Okay, gotta try it.

    Anyways, I turned pagefile off, left my PC idling for more than 2 hours, came back and it feels MUCH LESS stuttery, like when I first boot it up. Literally feels smooth enough right now. BUT, I'm not sure anymore what helped exactly. It may be my Network Card not causing high latency anymore that helped as well, so I gotta do some more testing. Now I'm gonna turn pagefile back on and see how it will do again. Thank you for your replies.
     
  9. Truder

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    Can you try disabling one monitor (using just a single monitor connected to the GPU) - this could be a very old bug that you may be experiencing

    Oh, is Relive enabled?
     
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  10. kelzthetraxer

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    Oh damn, sorry, I missed the question about monitors. No, I'm not running multiple monitors, my bad. And relive is disabled.
     

  11. kelzthetraxer

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    DPC Info
    
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    CPU Usage Summing By Module For the Whole Trace
    
    CPU Usage from 0 us to 1002919069 us:
    
         CPU 0 Usage,      CPU 1 Usage,      CPU 2 Usage,      CPU 3 Usage,
         usec      %,      usec      %,      usec      %,      usec      %, Module
            1   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, AtihdWT6.sys
         2139   0.00,        70   0.00,        83   0.00,        20   0.00, CLASSPNP.SYS
            1   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, FLTMGR.SYS
       126958   0.01,       605   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, HDAudBus.sys
           17   0.00,        20   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, Ndu.sys
          308   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, Ntfs.sys
         7923   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, USBPORT.SYS
           46   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, WdFilter.sys
       328987   0.03,      1330   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, Wdf01000.sys
       584056   0.06,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, afd.sys
       101318   0.01,     67767   0.01,     35391   0.00,     31450   0.00, atikmdag.sys
            8   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, bowser.sys
            2   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, dfsc.sys
      5250507   0.52,      3178   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, dxgkrnl.sys
         4607   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, dxgmms2.sys
           25   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, hal.dll
           13   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, igdkmd64.sys
         3529   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, kbdhid.sys
           11   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, mslldp.sys
        40242   0.00,     35798   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, ndis.sys
          191   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, netbt.sys
       123092   0.01,     81408   0.01,    108674   0.01,    150978   0.02, ntoskrnl.exe
           18   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, pdc.sys
           10   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, rdbss.sys
            2   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, rdyboost.sys
         5666   0.00,        66   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, storahci.sys
       345421   0.03,    215496   0.02,    197740   0.02,    133050   0.01, storport.sys
        10243   0.00,      5966   0.00,      4695   0.00,       592   0.00, tcpip.sys
    Is it dxgkrnl.sys now doing something there? My system feels quite good right now, but I'm still curious. Man such a pain in the ass this PC is, I'm about to sell it and buy a PS5.
     
  12. mbk1969

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    @kelzthetraxer

    You are looking at sum of all DPCs per CPU cores. You need to look at the DPCs per drivers.
     
  13. kelzthetraxer

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    DPC Info
    
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    CPU Usage Summing By Module For the Whole Trace
    
    CPU Usage from 0 us to 1002919069 us:
    
         CPU 0 Usage,      CPU 1 Usage,      CPU 2 Usage,      CPU 3 Usage,
         usec      %,      usec      %,      usec      %,      usec      %, Module
            1   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, AtihdWT6.sys
         2139   0.00,        70   0.00,        83   0.00,        20   0.00, CLASSPNP.SYS
            1   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, FLTMGR.SYS
       126958   0.01,       605   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, HDAudBus.sys
           17   0.00,        20   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, Ndu.sys
          308   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, Ntfs.sys
         7923   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, USBPORT.SYS
           46   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, WdFilter.sys
       328987   0.03,      1330   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, Wdf01000.sys
       584056   0.06,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, afd.sys
       101318   0.01,     67767   0.01,     35391   0.00,     31450   0.00, atikmdag.sys
            8   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, bowser.sys
            2   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, dfsc.sys
      5250507   0.52,      3178   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, dxgkrnl.sys
         4607   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, dxgmms2.sys
           25   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, hal.dll
           13   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, igdkmd64.sys
         3529   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, kbdhid.sys
           11   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, mslldp.sys
        40242   0.00,     35798   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, ndis.sys
          191   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, netbt.sys
       123092   0.01,     81408   0.01,    108674   0.01,    150978   0.02, ntoskrnl.exe
           18   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, pdc.sys
           10   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, rdbss.sys
            2   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, rdyboost.sys
         5666   0.00,        66   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, storahci.sys
       345421   0.03,    215496   0.02,    197740   0.02,    133050   0.01, storport.sys
        10243   0.00,      5966   0.00,      4695   0.00,       592   0.00, tcpip.sys
    
    Total = 2414504
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs, 1191174, or  49.33%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs, 386215, or  16.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs, 376192, or  15.58%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs, 218785, or   9.06%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,  85160, or   3.53%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs, 130516, or   5.41%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,  23594, or   0.98%
    Elapsed Time, >       64 usecs AND <=      128 usecs,   2842, or   0.12%
    Elapsed Time, >      128 usecs AND <=      256 usecs,     26, or   0.00%
    Total,                                                2414504
    
    Total = 1 for module AtihdWT6.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,      1, or 100.00%
    Total,                                                     1
    
    Total = 778 for module CLASSPNP.SYS
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,    516, or  66.32%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,     86, or  11.05%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,     34, or   4.37%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,     38, or   4.88%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,     73, or   9.38%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,     31, or   3.98%
    Total,                                                   778
    
    Total = 2 for module FLTMGR.SYS
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,      2, or 100.00%
    Total,                                                     2
    
    Total = 112620 for module HDAudBus.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,  43136, or  38.30%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,  60529, or  53.75%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,   8407, or   7.46%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,    449, or   0.40%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,     75, or   0.07%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,     21, or   0.02%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,      3, or   0.00%
    Total,                                                112620
    
    Total = 40 for module Ndu.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,     28, or  70.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,      8, or  20.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,      4, or  10.00%
    Total,                                                    40
    
    Total = 198 for module Ntfs.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,     10, or   5.05%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,    156, or  78.79%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,     28, or  14.14%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,      4, or   2.02%
    Total,                                                   198
    
    Total = 2006 for module USBPORT.SYS
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,   1560, or  77.77%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,    444, or  22.13%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,      2, or   0.10%
    Total,                                                  2006
    
    Total = 33 for module WdFilter.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,      1, or   3.03%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,     29, or  87.88%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,      3, or   9.09%
    Total,                                                    33
    
    Total = 13854 for module Wdf01000.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,     16, or   0.12%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,      9, or   0.06%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,     12, or   0.09%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,    847, or   6.11%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,   3228, or  23.30%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,   7522, or  54.29%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,   2175, or  15.70%
    Elapsed Time, >       64 usecs AND <=      128 usecs,     45, or   0.32%
    Total,                                                 13854
    
    Total = 761237 for module afd.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs, 581763, or  76.42%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs, 141906, or  18.64%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,  36726, or   4.82%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,    617, or   0.08%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,    167, or   0.02%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,     29, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,     27, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >       64 usecs AND <=      128 usecs,      2, or   0.00%
    Total,                                                761237
    
    Total = 59017 for module atikmdag.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,      3, or   0.01%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,    156, or   0.26%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,  50533, or  85.62%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,   3064, or   5.19%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,   2769, or   4.69%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,   2303, or   3.90%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,    189, or   0.32%
    Total,                                                 59017
    
    Total = 2 for module bowser.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,      1, or  50.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,      1, or  50.00%
    Total,                                                     2
    
    Total = 1 for module dfsc.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,      1, or 100.00%
    Total,                                                     1
    
    Total = 1168592 for module dxgkrnl.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs, 530917, or  45.43%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs, 111083, or   9.51%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs, 207631, or  17.77%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs, 148669, or  12.72%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,  42075, or   3.60%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs, 105396, or   9.02%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,  20155, or   1.72%
    Elapsed Time, >       64 usecs AND <=      128 usecs,   2651, or   0.23%
    Elapsed Time, >      128 usecs AND <=      256 usecs,     15, or   0.00%
    Total,                                                1168592
    
    Total = 3133 for module dxgmms2.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,    375, or  11.97%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,   2275, or  72.61%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,    421, or  13.44%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,     59, or   1.88%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,      2, or   0.06%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,      1, or   0.03%
    Total,                                                  3133
    
    Total = 23 for module hal.dll
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,      7, or  30.43%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,     15, or  65.22%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,      1, or   4.35%
    Total,                                                    23
    
    Total = 16 for module igdkmd64.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,     12, or  75.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,      3, or  18.75%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,      1, or   6.25%
    Total,                                                    16
    
    Total = 1345 for module kbdhid.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,    343, or  25.50%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,     32, or   2.38%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,    872, or  64.83%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,     97, or   7.21%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,      1, or   0.07%
    Total,                                                  1345
    
    Total = 1 for module mslldp.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,      1, or 100.00%
    Total,                                                     1
    
    Total = 11624 for module ndis.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,   3670, or  31.57%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,   2591, or  22.29%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,   1674, or  14.40%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,   1573, or  13.53%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,    876, or   7.54%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,    542, or   4.66%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,    571, or   4.91%
    Elapsed Time, >       64 usecs AND <=      128 usecs,    117, or   1.01%
    Elapsed Time, >      128 usecs AND <=      256 usecs,     10, or   0.09%
    Total,                                                 11624
    
    Total = 8 for module netbt.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,      1, or  12.50%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,      1, or  12.50%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,      2, or  25.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,      1, or  12.50%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,      2, or  25.00%
    Elapsed Time, >       64 usecs AND <=      128 usecs,      1, or  12.50%
    Total,                                                     8
    
    Total = 162632 for module ntoskrnl.exe
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,  28653, or  17.62%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,  50469, or  31.03%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,  44720, or  27.50%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,  33497, or  20.60%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,   3550, or   2.18%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,   1625, or   1.00%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,    115, or   0.07%
    Elapsed Time, >       64 usecs AND <=      128 usecs,      3, or   0.00%
    Total,                                                162632
    
    Total = 12 for module pdc.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,     10, or  83.33%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,      2, or  16.67%
    Total,                                                    12
    
    Total = 4 for module rdbss.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,      1, or  25.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,      3, or  75.00%
    Total,                                                     4
    
    Total = 3 for module rdyboost.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,      2, or  66.67%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,      1, or  33.33%
    Total,                                                     3
    
    Total = 4126 for module storahci.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,   1440, or  34.90%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,   1997, or  48.40%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,    587, or  14.23%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,     87, or   2.11%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,     15, or   0.36%
    Total,                                                  4126
    
    Total = 110976 for module storport.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,     41, or   0.04%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,  14842, or  13.37%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,  22961, or  20.69%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,  28448, or  25.63%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,  31502, or  28.39%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,  12841, or  11.57%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,    329, or   0.30%
    Elapsed Time, >       64 usecs AND <=      128 usecs,     12, or   0.01%
    Total,                                                110976
    
    Total = 2220 for module tcpip.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,    238, or  10.72%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,     15, or   0.68%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,      8, or   0.36%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,    891, or  40.14%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,    825, or  37.16%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,    203, or   9.14%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,     28, or   1.26%
    Elapsed Time, >       64 usecs AND <=      128 usecs,     11, or   0.50%
    Elapsed Time, >      128 usecs AND <=      256 usecs,      1, or   0.05%
    Total,                                                  2220
    
    All Module = 2414504,  Total = 2414504,   EQUAL

    How does it look? Is it right?
     
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    Interrupt Info
    
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    CPU Usage Summing By Module For the Whole Trace
    
    CPU Usage from 0 us to 1002919069 us:
    
         CPU 0 Usage,      CPU 1 Usage,      CPU 2 Usage,      CPU 3 Usage,
         usec      %,      usec      %,      usec      %,      usec      %, Module
       409757   0.04,      1393   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, HDAudBus.sys
        15906   0.00,        72   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, Wdf01000.sys
      4512309   0.45,      2479   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, dxgkrnl.sys
        10111   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, ndis.sys
       446133   0.04,     11367   0.00,         0   0.00,         0   0.00, storport.sys
    
    Total = 889592
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,   7717, or   0.87%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs, 167930, or  18.88%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs, 353295, or  39.71%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs, 154539, or  17.37%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,  88872, or   9.99%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs, 116074, or  13.05%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,   1157, or   0.13%
    Elapsed Time, >       64 usecs AND <=      128 usecs,      8, or   0.00%
    Total,                                                889592
    
    Total = 112948 for module HDAudBus.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,    233, or   0.21%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,     92, or   0.08%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,  96151, or  85.13%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,  16420, or  14.54%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,     51, or   0.05%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,      1, or   0.00%
    Total,                                                112948
    
    Total = 13862 for module Wdf01000.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,   5164, or  37.25%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,   7763, or  56.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,    913, or   6.59%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,     16, or   0.12%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,      6, or   0.04%
    Total,                                                 13862
    
    Total = 643281 for module dxgkrnl.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,    824, or   0.13%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs, 155895, or  24.23%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs, 193732, or  30.12%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,  90200, or  14.02%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,  85514, or  13.29%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs, 115984, or  18.03%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,   1132, or   0.18%
    Total,                                                643281
    
    Total = 5290 for module ndis.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,   3546, or  67.03%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,   1609, or  30.42%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,    133, or   2.51%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,      0, or   0.00%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,      1, or   0.02%
    Elapsed Time, >       64 usecs AND <=      128 usecs,      1, or   0.02%
    Total,                                                  5290
    
    Total = 114211 for module storport.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs,   1496, or   1.31%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs,    634, or   0.56%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,  60890, or  53.31%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,  47770, or  41.83%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,   3301, or   2.89%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,     89, or   0.08%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,     24, or   0.02%
    Elapsed Time, >       64 usecs AND <=      128 usecs,      7, or   0.01%
    Total,                                                114211
    
    All Module = 889592,  Total = 889592,   EQUAL
     
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    Try Latencymon, open it, wait 30 seconds and post results here both from the main tab and drivers tab. I find it easier looking at LatMon results than this other method you are using right now.

    Also, is your O.S on a HDD or an SSD? I probably asked you this before, not sure, but make sure your storage device is in good condition, that could cause problems too.

    I assume your temps are normal while gaming as well?
     
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    I'm using this method because @mbk1969 suggests it's better than latencymon.

    My OS was always on SSD, at first it was on the different one, the worse (slower one). I did try swapping them, it never helped afaik. Both are 100% healthy.

    Temps are ok for the most part, may not be the best, but there is no throttling going on. Can high temps cause problems even without throttling? I always think about that too.

    EDIT: I've tried latency mon, there were no red bars. Should I try again?
     
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    No, if it does not have red bars, then latency must be fine and high temps are bad only when throttling happens, so don't worry.
     
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    Much better than the first one.

    (@Smough for you too)
    You do not need LatencyMon if you can read the report:
    Code:
    Total = 1168592 for module dxgkrnl.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs, 530917, or  45.43%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs, 111083, or   9.51%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs, 207631, or  17.77%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs, 148669, or  12.72%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,  42075, or   3.60%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs, 105396, or   9.02%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,  20155, or   1.72%
    Elapsed Time, >       64 usecs AND <=      128 usecs,   2651, or   0.23%
    Elapsed Time, >      128 usecs AND <=      256 usecs,     15, or   0.00%
    
    - you can see that for dxgkrnl.sys 45.43% of all DPCs were less than 1 microsecond (usec), 17.77% - between 2 and 4 microseconds, 12.72% - between 4 and 8 microseconds, 9.51% - between 1 and 2 microseconds, 9.02% - between 16 and 32 microseconds, ... , and only 15 times (0.00%) DPCs were between 128 and 256 microseconds.

    Why I pointed at ndis.sys from your first report:
    Code:
    Total = 2079963 for module ndis.sys
    Elapsed Time, >        0 usecs AND <=        1 usecs, 1621371, or  77.95%
    Elapsed Time, >        1 usecs AND <=        2 usecs, 278218, or  13.38%
    Elapsed Time, >        2 usecs AND <=        4 usecs,  87615, or   4.21%
    Elapsed Time, >        4 usecs AND <=        8 usecs,  22411, or   1.08%
    Elapsed Time, >        8 usecs AND <=       16 usecs,  28203, or   1.36%
    Elapsed Time, >       16 usecs AND <=       32 usecs,  26176, or   1.26%
    Elapsed Time, >       32 usecs AND <=       64 usecs,  11831, or   0.57%
    Elapsed Time, >       64 usecs AND <=      128 usecs,   4023, or   0.19%
    Elapsed Time, >      128 usecs AND <=      256 usecs,    112, or   0.01%
    Elapsed Time, >      256 usecs AND <=      512 usecs,      3, or   0.00%
    
    ? - because even though it had only 3 DPCs between 256 and 512 microseconds the fact that they were bigger than 256 microseconds caught my attention.

    So there are two points of interest:
    - the maximum range of elapsed time - the lower the better,
    - the percent of elapsed times for DPC - the bigger percent for shortest elapsed time the better.

    PS I mean each section for driver`s DPC (and ISR) is just a histogram (in textual representation) where elapsed time - the time from start to the end of DPC (or ISR) - is the horizontal axis (X), and the number of DPCs in that elapsed time range (Elapsed Time, > A usecs AND <= B usecs) is the vertical axis (Y).
    [​IMG]
     
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    @mbk1969 I know this is off-topic now here, but do you know anything about RAM speeds and timings for example? Yesterday I overclocked my PC and my RAM suddenly changed itself to 1333mhz, which I didn't notice at all, so I played BF4 and noticed some pretty huge smoothness upgrade thinking that it was my overclock, but my PC slowed down a bit, so I went to BIOS thinking maybe it's not enough voltage added to the CPU only to find out it was RAM slowed down, so I ramped it up back to 2400mhz, went to play BF4 again and noticed less smoothness and a bit more input lag. I wasn't imagining things, I was like wtf, where did all the smoothness I just had go. It felt kinda wrong. Do you know anything about this or should I start another new thread? Thank you.
     
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