Store publishes benchmarks of the Core i9-12900KF, i7-12700KF and i5-12600KF

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    barbacot Master Guru

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    These results are in line with other "rumors" and leaked benchmarks so they could be true...
    The BIG problem is that you need a new platform so new motherboard (a tradition for Intel already), new cooler ( or at least an adapter for your old cooler - you are at the mercy of vendors to provide one if you bought an expensive AIO solution), DDR5 memory if you want to go all way in - who knows how it will behave with DDR 4 memory even if it's compatible and with the crazy prices today even if it's cheaper at unit price and with more performance than Ryzen it is actually (much) more expensive to run...
     
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    SIngle core perf impressive.
     
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    Ryzen does hold it's own pretty nicely. The single core looks bigger diff that it is. But that is just classic chart manipulation by anyone. It's still a good difference.
     

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    Results are real.
    12700KF $399 will be a tough nut to beat for AMD.
     
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    Kaarme Ancient Guru

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    Actually that doesn't mean anything at all. Anyone can create benchmarks in Photoshop and make them more or less the same as the other so called leakers', to create (phoney) credibility for themselves. If someone created charts showing results totally out there (in either direction), few would be willing to believe it.

    However, it would be cool if the rumours were true. The better Intel performs, the more pressure it places on AMD, in both performance expectations and prices. It's not like Intel would have been lagging behind anyway, other than in efficiency and core numbers, so it's easy to believe a new Intel gen is able to beat AMD's current one in sheer performance if they have got the threads. Of course not counting HEDT, which Intel was forced to abandon for the time being.
     
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    We just have to wait for the Intel to be released and see real tests, like the ones done here at guru3d.
    Then AMD will fight back and as long as this continues it will be good news for everyone.
     
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    Horus-Anhur Maha Guru

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    If those are true, AMD might just get "Conroed" again.

    But personally, I think those are too good to be true.
     
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    The more interesting part is, how cool or hot will they run with close to same performance as the high end Zen3's.
    5xxx may perform well but they are not the easiest CPU's to keep temperatures down on.
     
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    That's true.
    The new ryzen seems to have better control over the issue of sudden exaggerated voltage and temperature rises. With the CTR program you can already control this, but it is better if the CPU itself does it.
     

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    asturur Maha Guru

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    not sure if i would spend the money on a new platform for a 25% increase, moving from my 470x where i just need to slap a 5800x on.
    I guess it would be great if those cpusare that fast, so AMD would either cut price or do something new again.
    If they have the performance, intel price matter less.
     
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    More or less the same as 10k-11k series so not exactly great but manageable.
    Lets say the wattage and temps you get from a 5900x running cinebench you'll get from 12900k too.
    There is however a significant improvement for running smaller tasks from the small cores, will be available with windows 11.
    Again, that's for light software use such as office,mmedia etc.
     
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    Weird chart. A cursory glance at performance aggregators shows higher multithreading numbers in Cinebench for the 5950X than on those charts. A ~25% single core uplift over the 11900K? Sure, I'll believe it when I see it.
     
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    Performance is between 15-25% higher than previous generation.
    15% games, 20-25% optimized software such as 3D/encoding.
    Intel themselves declared an average 19% IPC.
     
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    This is a claim they make every generation and it's rarely true, except in some cherrypicked benchmarks. That's why I'm skeptical. Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it in reliable reviews. I hope it's true.
     

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    They also claimed 19% increase with 11gen over 10gen and we all know how that went.
     
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    Looks good, but like Mineria said it'll be about how hot it gets which'll dictate what sort of cooling system will be needed.
     
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    Doesn't alder lake benifit from windows 11 how does it do in windows 10
     
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    My my if the vcache brings 15% extra performance (where it is possible to use it) then it seems the battle will be heated up ! GOOD ! Assuming the leaks are real and i hope they are !
     
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    Isn't Intel having these tested with the "Cryocooler" setup ?
    ie : liquid cooling with Peltier ?

    I'd rather wait to see proper reviews, as these look good, but too good to be entirely "true".
    Compared to Rocket lake, or Comet lake, there are huge gains, especially single core.
    Makes me think that AVX or some 'new extension' is playing a part here.
     

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