Steam: Nvidia sold 11 GeForce RTX 3000 for every Radeon RX 6000 that AMD sold

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  1. cucaulay malkin

    cucaulay malkin Ancient Guru

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    xtu profiles are a thing.
    default,mild oc,aggressive oc,uv - all at the click of a button.
    1.25v 4.5G you'd be getting same 60fps at 65w
     
  2. Krizby

    Krizby Maha Guru

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    huh? got my Asus TUF OC 3090 for 1650usd + tax.
    You gotta check out the people who paid 2500usd for a 6900XTXH and believe that 6900XTXH is faster than 3090 at 4K gaming :D

    3090's level of performance is required to properly drive a 4K120hz display though, as I'm having a blast with the LG OLED CX 48in. I would always use DLSS regardless of whether the game has RT or not, the performance uplift + power saving are always worth it.

    9900K remain below 70C in games so it's not that big of a deal to me, not like I'm gonna use it for long anyways.
     
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  3. AuerX

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    Pretty sure there were other factors in play here than RT marketing.
    People were willing to spend on GPU's regardless, look at the used market pricing.

    But sure, if you could get a 3080 or w/e at MSRP from places like Best Buy or the EVGA que you certainly got more for your money than if you bought a AMD card.
    To some, RT and DLSS werent useless features, to some it was. That's personal choices tho.
     
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  4. fantaskarsef

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    hehe well I too am vocal about AMD's offerings being too expensive as well, that's true. And I have to correct myself, cheapest 3090 around here is 2k€ by now. Which comes to pretty much 2400USD as well.
    Don't get me wrong, it's only the price that's keeping me from buying a 3090 or 3080TI. But the marketing... we've got to use DLSS to drive even 1440p screens. Odd still, a bit of irony there from an owner of a 2080TI.


    Don't get me wrong, I'm still happy to have invested in first a 2080TI to be able to even play Cyberpunk with DLSS and RT to look at the new effects in the first place, and second, my Gsync screen (with a module) that kept it bearable to play in the 40s and 50s even. Both costly investments, and I do not regret buying them.
    Just flashing out more money right now doesn't feel pleasant. But you are right, personal choices though.
     

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    41C on the GPU?
    Is that just at start or a for longer session?
     
  6. Krizby

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    I had 2080Ti before and it's only capable of 3440x1440 gaming IMO, but now is the right time for 4K120hz display when LG OLED CX can be had for as little as 1k. I was using the LG 34GN850-B and this OLED CX just blow it out of the water in term of gaming experience, playing PUBG I could see the drop across the freaking map :D. So yeah 4K 48in screen + DLSS I'm getting tremendous advantage with battle royal games (Warzone and the soon to be released Naraka BladePoint)
     
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  7. cucaulay malkin

    cucaulay malkin Ancient Guru

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    of course you don't as long as you can afford a 3080Ti.3090 does 1440p rt easily without dlss.
    https://www.computerbase.de/2021-06...m-performancerating-fuer-raytracing-2560-1440

    85fps even in tayga
    https://www.purepc.pl/test-wydajnos...icznych-nvidia-geforce-i-amd-radeon?page=0,12
    I remember my 2070S barely reaching 50fps with dlss there.

    imo even 3080 can do 1440p RT without the need of dlss,just be prepared it's not always gonna be a solid 60.
     
  8. kakiharaFRS

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    there's a reason you see a lot more 3090 than others
    regular 3080 in my country were non existent all taken by miners
    3070 same-ish
    but 3090s ? well there weren't a lot but a lot more than nothing especially before the price all went above 2k at the time when people were still hopeful that the situation would get better
    I'm pessimistic as you can get so I bought a low-end 3090 that I didn't want for roughly 1744€
    and a lot of people did, many more than people bought 3080 and 3070 because again we never had any in the 1st place in my country
    now we have quite a few 3080ti but they are officially everywhere 2000-2250€ heh
    this means that in my area you are going to see more 3080tis even at that price because that's all there is,. well there's like...100 3080tis in stock but a single 3070 and a single 3070ti to give you an idea
    edit : amd radeons are more than not in stock they are not even listed edit2: nvme we have some 6900xt at 2000€ of course ><
     
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  9. Krizby

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    Left the the entirety of Radeon that they are selling, right is for RTX3060 alone.
    That Asus RX570 is 500usd :eek:
     
  10. fantaskarsef

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    True, that's my experience as well in regards to the 2080TI and gaming up to 1440p. I wouldn't seriously consider 4K/120 with a 2080TI either, even if RT is left alone.


    See fellow guru Krizby's comment I quoted in my post, he uses DLSS at 1440p with raytracing.
     
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  11. cucaulay malkin

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    that is just worst case scenario

    most other games running stock or a slight oc will do 1440p RT native
     
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    Thanks for the info then, I guess Krizby's usage is a bit uncommon then.
     
  13. cucaulay malkin

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    it was just a test imo
    how much power uv+dlss can save.and it's over 100w.rt running comfortably in the most taxing implementation so far.tbh 6900xt can't hit those numbers at 1080p,not even close.
     
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    Yes, I was kind of disappointed by AMD's launch of their 6900XT, both in RT performance and in pricing.
    Here I could get a 3080TI and a 6900XT for about the same price. And honestly, I wouldn't buy the AMD card for the above mentioned reason. in CP2077, even the meager 2080TI beats the 6900XT when raytracing's activated...
     
  15. cucaulay malkin

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    all nvidia sponsored titles will see same results.
    they have a massive advantage in RT,in fully path traced games it's even bigger.It's in their interest to have a higher level of RT.

    thought honestly if it wasn't for this insane level of RT effects in cp2077 the game would be a bit disappointing graphically too.Main story+full rt,this is what makes cp interesting.
     
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    Which is not a surprise, yes. But if you want to go for the most ray tracing effects currently offered, there's only Nvidia's DXR right now... the general libraries have yet to catch up. That's not a surprise either, since let's be honest, it's Nvidia's main selling point, and they are pushing both marketing and engineering $ into it.

    I agree. Especially textures seemed to be quite bland in CP, when it came to walls, roads / boardwalks etc. Still played it with RT+DLSS and all the effects because it was supposed to be the best RT showcase up to date.
     
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    Which block and pump are you using?
     
  18. Krizby

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    I can't stand the SSR in CP2077, it's too noisy looking and Reflections is done to the extreme in CP2077 so noise is everywhere with SSR, so yeah RT Reflection must be enabled no matter what, other settings can be tweaked to get playable framerates.
     
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    I used digital foundry's recommended settings tbh, but yeah, I can see why you set it like that.
     
  20. cucaulay malkin

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    and character models imo
    big time

    this is from me catalyst,a 2016 game that runs +60fps 1440p on 1070
    god damn it looks like real life
    [​IMG]
     
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