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Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon Drivers Section' started by elpsychodiablo, Aug 16, 2012.

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  1. elpsychodiablo

    elpsychodiablo Master Guru

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    Befor Guildwars 2 Release i want to buy a new GPU. :banana:
    I have a 5770 and i need to upgrade this old Lady to play on 1080p.
    The drivers this year really sucks is there any hope to fix them this year?

    What i dont like on ATI

    - firefox / Flash problems
    - Mediaplayer Problems (XBMC, MPCHC, Cyberlink)
    - flickering on Dualscreen after Overclock
    - Multirendering
    - Bad Video Quality if install Vision Center
    - xsplit

    Why should not switch to green, whats their problems?
     
  2. Neo Cyrus

    Neo Cyrus Ancient Guru

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    Flash is the buggiest program in the known universe and the cause of 99% of computer problems. It doesn't matter what hardware you have, you will still get crashes because of Adobe related software. You will just get Flash problems more often with AMD cards.

    nVidia's biggest screwup was releasing a driver that messed up fan control on some cards, disabling the fans, and causing them to either crash or even get damaged. However I'd take that rather than a 14+ month period of deplorable drivers.

    The 3rd party support for nVidia is much stronger, thanks in part to nVidia Inspector, and to me that's a big factor.
     
  3. Mufflore

    Mufflore Ancient Guru

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    I dont have any problems now, it was definitely the better move going to NVidia.
    It also saves having to put up with childish behaviour in help threads, its much more civilised on this side of the fence :)
    What made my time with ATI close to bearable was TwLs driver mods, ATI were a mess internally then and the attitude of ATIs driver team on the forum here stunk, I hope they have improved.
     
  4. DavidGX

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    As a long time AMD user... go green. I recently switched to Intel for my CPU and next time I'll be going Nvidia for my GPU(s). Not worth the driver difficulties.
     

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    Flash problems are not the card, it is the program as flash player is the worst coded program ever since Adobe bought Macromedia. Flash Player 11 finally works (for me at least) without crashing, or not displaying video or content with the latest release.
     
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    there's a driver team here? no there isnt... spyre is insider beta, but not part of the 'driver team'

    any other actual employees that i know of only appear once every few months, across all forums (rage3d, beyond3d, etc)
     
  7. Mufflore

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    There were members contributing that appeared to be a liaison between the public and ATIs driver team (they were ATI then).
     
  8. The Goose

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    Amds problem is all the different partly functional beta`s which gives the perseption of bad drivers,as for certified drivers i rarely have issues with them,ive never had problems with adode fp,my 7970 has been great but i may switch when arma3 is released but it depends if i have issues with anistrophic filtering like arma2,if i have to turn it off in arma3 then i`ll switch,ive had great cards from both teams but they both have problems too
     
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    IN the time ive been with this website ive seen childishness on both sides
     
  10. thatguy91

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    I've had both Nvidia and AMD in the past, and had much more problems on Nvidia than AMD. I've never used Crossfire though, but I don't think Crossfire or SLI are really worth it unless it is a necessity, since both have issues.

    It seems many of the problems with AMD is the over-enthusiastic overclocks some people put on their cards. Different cards react differently to overclock. I don't subscribe to the principle of finding where it starts to corrupt and back off a few Mhz, it is much better to back off a bit more!

    Also compare the cards based on price. You can't compare a HD7870 to a GTX670 fairly simply because the GTX670 is significantly (as a percentage) more expensive than the AMD's. You would have to compare them to a high end HD7970.

    I personally will be upgrading to the HD8xxx series once it comes out, as I am more than happy with the way the HD7xxx series is going. The drivers from now on should be better, AMD have changed the way they do their drivers, and the drivers for the new GCN architecture is maturing. For Nvidia, you have to go back a couple of generations for such a major architecture change, and the drivers then for Nvidia also suffered for a while.

    Flash is what causes Firefox to crash. As HTML5 matures the need for flash will probably come less important, and will probably be more like a HTML5 extension. That said, no doubt it will be a long long time before websites retire the use of existing Flash.

    So which one to go for? Honestly either are fine, but don't knock the HD7970. The main thing to think of is upgrading when the new gen comes out, it makes it more cost effective and the HD8xxx series looks to be really quite excellent.
     
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  11. Mufflore

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    This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the Green pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes
     
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    You win the internetz

    10/10
     
  14. Newbie2012

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    Between Nvidia and ATI, I would say I have had about the same amount of problems. However Nvidia always seem to be ahead with regards to drivers for games, eg a new game comes out Nvidia have drivers ready. AMD you could be waiting a while.
     
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    They know about xsplit, a fix is coming. :)

     

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    Last time I took the Green pill I woke up naked in a bramble bush (metaphorically speaking of course). :puke2:
    Although, I'm more than willing to take a look at what's on offer next time I upgrade :nerd:
     
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    Cool, 1/6 of my problems solved in near future :)
     
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    Here's the deal: If you want the latest and greatest games to run at launch as problem free as possible, go Nvidia.

    If you want the latest and greatest games to run 2 months after launch relatively problem free, but it doesn't matter because you've already lost interest in the game, go AMD.
     
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    Most of the crap in the AMD/ATI section comes from nVidia users and those too arrogant to figure out that they're causing most of their own issues.
     
  20. elpsychodiablo

    elpsychodiablo Master Guru

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    With Games i havent significant problems because i dont have or want to build a sli / crossfire system. More Problem i have with DXVA/ DXVA2 on Movies and
    Firefox with Flash, all this problems i havent at my 2nd PC with a GF 8800 GTS 512.

    The GF660TI looks sweet, i m not sure if it is suitable for my System, maybe i wait for a GF660 without TI, because i still have a old Phenom II
     
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