Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order

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  1. jbscotchman

    jbscotchman Ancient Guru

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    Did anyone complain when Knights of the Old Republic ( the greatest Star Wars game of all time) didn't have limbs being cut off? No.
     
  2. cerebus23

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    that also came out what 20 years ago?

    yea it like we devolving. berserk games wo dismemberment when the ps2 game had it. star wars in the 70s having it.

    and that metal gear game where you could dice your targets to pieces? that is about what a lightsaber would do to a person.

    instead of "new" and innovative features like being able to disarm people by taking their hands off with a parry move and so on would have been a nod to the og era where we had some violence.

    and you can stil neuter that for the more snowflake markets that do not want their people thinking anything remotely edgy or challenging. :p
     
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    Hey believe me man, I am totally against the snowflake, triggered, sjw's. What I'm saying is that you can have a great Star Wars game without cutting storm troopers in half. In the end I just want a good story driven Star Wars game. KOTOR is nearly 20 years old and was not under Disney's control yet it is, and still is one of the best SW games ever.
     
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    Yep, I agree. I want the same. Unfortunately, The Fallen Order doesn't seem to be that kind of KOTOR good SW game. KOTOR also had no platforming, sliding or whatever... The whole game seems to follow this Disney's new Star Wars for kids era.

    Honestly I want to be completely wrong here. I really want this game to be that good story-driven SW game. But from what I saw so far, I'm very, very skeptical.
     
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  5. jbscotchman

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    I hear what you're saying, but George Lucas did create Star Wars for kids originally. Guys like me in their 40's or older love the nostalgia, but you have to realize the franchise has evolved over time.
     
  6. It's give and take far as dismemberment - KOTOR was being released along the same time as the Jedi Outcast/Academy games which did have full dismemberment modes yet it wasn't a negative for KOTOR.

    I recall I spent many hours gleefully holding stormtroopers against my lightsabers mutilating them over valleys and canyons n such... ahhh... where have the good times gone' :cool:
     
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    Yeah but when KOTOR came out words weren't violent hate crimes like they are now. We can't have any limbs flying off, heaven forbid it might inspire someone.
     
  8. Goodness no, after all a long time ago in a decade far far away serial killers like Ted Bundy must have really struggled for inspiration in a world without violent video games. Ah ... it was the Devil's Rock n Roll and Playboy!
     
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  9. KissSh0t

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    If someone could make a third person action adventure RPG in the style of this amazing trailer I would be pretty happy.



    Also, if I could get a remake of this that would be nice.



    Or... hey.. just more Star Wars games in general, since Disney have taken over there have been hardly any actual star wars video games.
     
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    Well, Jedi Knight Outcast and Academy did come from a studio that made one of it's main focuses... dismemberment. ;)
     

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    I can't say that chopping off limbs is such a fundamental part of SW that I absolutely require it in a game. Similarly, I don't think a lightsaber should cut people in half on a single strike. After all, we all play shooters where both you and enemies take several hits to go down. Although I would definitely prefer was an option to cut off limbs and I agree that it's just a Disney focus on kids. Maybe they could have made a "blood and gore DLC" that would be free and add the dismemberment. This way they could keep the same kid friendly rating.
     
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    I'm pretty sure you had to use a cheat code to enable dismemberment. Without it, dismemberment was limited to hands only if I recall.
     
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    Every time I see those videos, it makes me realize how "wasted" the potential of the Star Wars franchise has become; and this is even before Disney took over.

    One of the greatest reasons why Game of Thrones is so popular is because the characters and the fantasy World itself are written in a very realistic manner. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for Star Wars. But that's not to say I think Game of Thrones and Star Wars are even remotely similar and that the latter could benefit from being more like the former. It's just that Star Wars has been crippled more or less by its "forced" appeal to children.
     
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    Funny thing about that, "apparently" the directors of Game of Thrones, David Benioff and D.B. Weiss are creating the next trilogy in the Star Wars series.
     
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    I was really referring to the books and not the HBO series. As someone that's read the entire Game of Thrones series, the HBO version was at the very least entertaining, but that's about all I could say.
     

  16. God I hope they work on their ending first considering how long they rode on Martin's coattail's for the last series they worked on...
     
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    I hear you, and i think we could be friend, but my copy of Jedi Knight 2 : Jedi Outcast , (sitting 15cm near my current mousepad i might add) disagrees.


    On topic, think it's all been blown out of proportion, there's never been any dismemberment in Star Wars why should there be dismemberment in Star Wars games?...
     
  18. lol there doesn't need to be ... I / we ... I don't even know where this got / went. I think I just brought up that cheat code mode as an example in a post where I was also being facetious.

    More to the point - I was talking about darker elements to the old trilogy. Not R-rated or anything extreme just how, to an extent Disney has a tendency to really constrain properties to their brand-elements (at times) even if in their origin those properties did not start that way. Star Wars 1979 onward wasn't "codified" for lack of a term I find to articulate this as opposed to what Disney tends to do.

    then dismemberment snuck in... I'd have to backtrack to find out where...
     
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    There is dismemberment in original StarWars movies made by Lucas. And ppl want it in games because it makes sense and feels more realistic.
     
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  20. Hmm well...
    • cantina scene of original SW 1979
    • luke's hand,
    • anakin's
    • Kenobi against darth maul
    • jango fett (mace windu)
    • doesn't a sand person get dismembered at one point?
    • count dooku
    • General Grievous
    • Return of the Jedi scene above the sand pitt coulda sworn luke saber chopped a blaster off someone's hand and their hand with it
    • umm what else aaaa..... shiiiattt.... ummm .... well crap a bunch of the droids in the Phantom Menace!
     
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