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SSDs in more than 60% of the systems sold by the end of 2019 Due to further Price reductions

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    sverek Ancient Guru

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    Great, SSD as primary drive should be mainstream by now.

    Only wasting CPU potential with slow system HDDs
     
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    Only five years ago i didnt had even one ssd. Even my os was installed on some crappy hard drive.

    Today os and all my games are on ssd's. Prices dropped and everyone should have it this days.
     
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    For non business users HDD's are now like the Dodo. The only niche they have left is for laptops where you get a smaller SSD and then larger HDD due to cost. And that cost factor will soon be eliminated.

    My daughters HP PC I bought for her had a 32GB Intel Optane and 1TB HDD. When the HDD crapped out in under a year I put a left over HDD in there and tried to get the Optane to work with it in WIndows 10. Did not work.. Rather than ringing up and having the pain of talking to HP tech support and sending it back just bought a cheap 512GB SSD and job sorted. Quicker and more reliable.

    It is no coincidence traditional HDD manufacturers are buying up SSD firms. It's like the move from camera film to digital.

    I can imagine optical disk drives outlasting them ;)
     

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    Since I don't keep huge media libraries I'm fine with having PCs that only use SSDs for... a couple of years now. Best thing happened to the PC in decades.
     
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    Undying Ancient Guru

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    Sata ssd is all you need to remove the storage bottleneck. You dont need nvme, pcie...
     
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    I have three SSDs and three HDDs in my PC. Needness to say, all programs and games are on SSDs. The HDDs only have downloads, archives, backups, videos, and random stuff for which speed makes no difference.

    It hasn't been been strange to see pre-assembled PCs sold with an SSD for the OS and such, and an HDD for random stuff. I suppose eventually they might come with just a single larger SSD or perhaps two SSDs. As it is, HDD prices actually haven't been dropping at all for years. Not sure about the price/GB if you look at the larger models appearing.
     
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    It's a shame that ThinkPad still has classic HDD in cheaper models.
     
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    HDDs aren't dead yet - they're still more cost effective beyond 1TB, but, the price gap is narrowing every month. I predict we'll have 1TB SSDs cheaper than HDDs before 2021. By that point, I'll probably upgrade my home server to SSDs. Right now, I've got a RAID1 array which overall has been fast enough, considering the network is also a bit of a bottleneck. I'm kinda just waiting for one of the drives to crap out, because there's no way in hell I'm running network storage without a redundant HDD (I don't care about SSD redundancy). At that point I'll also just upgrade my network speed.
    If next-gen consoles don't come with an optical drive, I think those will die first. Kind of a shame because there wasn't really a wide-spread replacement for them, at least for movies and TV shows. We're reaching a point where I'm not sure how we'll be able to get video content that isn't horrendously lossy.
     
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    My PC has been all SSD for a while now but still use HDDs in my NAS for obvious cost reasons.
     

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    mohiuddin Master Guru

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    But but qlc ssds are as bad as HDD they say....
    And i am a bit worried about qlc being mainstream in near future . I dont like 'em
     
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    schmidtbag Ancient Guru

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    "as bad" meaning what?
     
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    Meaning as bad as
     
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    schmidtbag Ancient Guru

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    Yes... in what way? Because they're not slower, they're not less efficient, and they're not prone to data loss. So, in what way are they "as bad"?
     
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    mohiuddin Master Guru

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    Well , look for samsung QVO 860 ssd review, when their slc cache get saturated their speed goes down to almost hdd level
     

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    I only saw one benchmark result (on Anandtech) of maybe 20 different ones (from various sources) where the 1TB model of that SSD fell behind a HDD. In some cases, that SSD actually ranked toward the top. The multi-TB models also performed just fine, for the price anyway. So, for you to claim QLC SSDs are "as bad as a HDD" because of one test on one specific model is absurd, and a gross overstatement.
     
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    When the slc cache is full, this is the actual write speed u will be getting. Looks baad enough compared to tlc based ssds . And qlc's endurance is also bad.
     
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    Ok... did you not just read what I said? Because everything you posted there, including the graph, suggests otherwise.
     
  19. mohiuddin

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    Yep. But not all graphs actually matters. May be i said abit too much comparing with an hdd. But qlc is a major step back in ssd industry while trying to make them cheap, too much compromises
     
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    That is a fair assessment that I mostly agree with.
     
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