Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Guru3D News, Sep 8, 2008.
Who need this overhyped piece of junk anyway? It's about as innovative as The Sims.
stupid companies like EA are the reasons i havent bought a PC game in years. if u actually bought the game, just get a crack for it or whatnot that will bypass/get rid of the phone home activation like with Bioshock, etc, etc
DRM only plagues the honest folk. "Pirates" have no such trouble....it's just so useless.
You would have thought EA and others would have learned from the mistakes of other releases in the past. Gamers purchase the game and want to install it as many times as they want when they want without being held back or have any sort of spyware type traffic being sent out.
Shame, the game did look good.
I didn't even understand what this game was even about till last week. I entertained the idea but said I will pass after hearing about the DRM. Also I was really excited about Mass Effect until I heard about the DRM, and painfully passed. I may download it though. I hope GTA IV doesn't have this type of crap on it.
Mass Effect ($50)
EA lost ($125)
Hmm I am out of install for Mass effect 1 install was borked and 2 formats later = none left now So in case of that I just have no bothered reinstalling the game ....another reason why i now stay away from Max Limit installs....what is this crap
but if I want to play Mass Effect in the future I will just download a fix instead of paying EA to call them,
The really sad part it that gameplay it's mediocre when it could be brilliant.
Like it says, to modify your creature it's purely cosmetic, so why bother.
At most someone who likes it and feel right could pay and use it cracked, then you don't have online content, plus why the hell they released creature creator when you can't use your creations ingame?
A shame, it was meant to be better, gameplay it's becoming more and more boring these years, you feel like you did it already in every genre.
You mean to tell me the $10 creature creator can't even be used to create creatures for the game uke2:? That is pathetic I am so done with this type of crap. We really need to start writing to congress and getting our voice heard. Congress only gets to hear the cry's of these companies but not our side of the story. In any other industry this crap wouldn't fly so why must we put up with it?
it is disgusting, do they honestly think people will stand for this, its a ****ing pc game so people will have to reinstall from time to time as pcs do sometimes crash or installs dont work.
How can you give a limit of 3 installs, in fact how can you possibly limit the installs at all, then add a horrible spyware that is borderline as bad as those ones you get when you look at granny porn.
F**K EA, and steal this game, i dont often agree with piracy but i think they need to be hit hard with this.
The game is fun, my kid loves it.
3 Installes is fine with me, If i have to do a reformat, not a big deal.
I know that it sucks but damn you ppl steeling is what causes this stuff in the first place.
what about games we buy on steam? I know there is no "DRM" and limited activations but I cannot play my steam games (even in single player) without an internet connection & connecting to steam first.
Anyways DRM sucks. I don't know why all publishers just release all their games on steam, have everything under one roof & then allow you to play the game offline.
ever heard of steam being in OFFLINE mode ? u can play without a net connection
Really??? I didn't know there was an offline mode. I just get the "cannot connect to Steam" message if the Ethernet cable is unplugged. But that was before I knew there was an offline mode! Awesome. Just started buying games on steam a few months ago. K I retract my statement.
VALVE RULES, EA DROOLS!
f*** EA, the game sucks, it's a 5 years old kids game, even my sister (she likes the sims) finds the game boring
+they put DRM into it? no comment..
F*** EA, Sony and all those idiots who spend billions to stop piracy instead of doing something good.
like here in italy the access to piratebay and all websites owned by the piratebay founder has been forbidden even future websites!
That's because there is a "fake" lawsuit (Sony ecc.. payed someone..) and even though there are absolutely NO proofs that thepiratebay is illegal, the judge made the providers block the ip address and dns of thepiratebay.
(i have to use opendns to access piratebay)
and the explanation for this huge violation of EU rules is "thepiratebay is diffusing pedopornographic material"
it was already weeks ago that EA officially announced plans to use activation copy protection for spore and any other game they will release in the future... that's when i decided not to buy any EA games anymore and just wait for the reviews to reveal what protection is being used.
i won't be renting my games, ever.
I truly hope that a lot of people don't buy this game until they get their act together. I will not rent a game for the full price. Just as I don't buy in-game ads in a full price game like BF2142. Then there is the story with Crysis... Dead horse. Looks like they'll never learn. Maybe EA should move into the agricultural market and milk real cows.
I'm pretty disappointed about what's going on with Spore, too. Although it wasn't on my list of games to get, I held it in my hand yesterday, but decided to wait for some more reviews of it. I guess, it was a good thing that I didn't get it.
I hope, EA is going to realize that they are screwing things up and are loosing more customers by protecting their precious (feature limited) game - which is already cracked any way.
Found this on the EA UK forums,
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/spore-game-discussion/316297-spore-copy-protection-q.html (somewhere around page 52-55)
Everyone is Yelling, lets hope the publishers are listening:stewpid:
The problem here is not users, it is the developers and publishers. Its the developers fault that they are under capitalized to such an extent that they climb into bed with EA for the funds to bring a title to market. By "selling out" early before release, they lose control over their project.
EA has ruined the market for over the last 8 years or so with this model. The greedy suits at EA care nothing about gamers or the quality of games, to them its all about the first 90 days of sales and potential aftermarket expansions. As we have seen lately, The EA model is now moving towards "the hook" concept, where after a full price retail purchase the buyer will be "on the hook" for constant fees in order to "buy" expansions and/or content in order to play a game....
In the past "DRM" was a simple way of heading off people from sharing disks that worked well, as long as you didnt lose whatever the key was on, or damage a disk. But over the last few years we have seen this pratice grow into a monster, sold to developers and publishers as a way of protecting their games from piracy. If it "worked" it might make sense, but it doesnt work. Spore was available on the torrents 2 weeks before it was released, and in fact all the major releases of the last few years have had the DRM broken in just a few weeks at most.
So, why is this still being used for paying customers? Why are rootkits and other unbeliveable noxious things being placed onto users computers at install that cannot be removed? How has the hardware that I paid for, suddenly become EA's property? How can it be that after I uninstall a game there are still programs using my internet connection left in my system that I cannot remove? Who says that after I 'BUY" a game, I can only install it how many times?
No my friends, this DRM madness has reached a level that is unacceptable to even novice users. And has driven true gamers (like myself) into the hands of the pirates. I have a closet full of retail boxes going back to the 1980's, well over 400. But since 2003 that number has dropped to less than 10, and the reason has been the quality of releases and the DRM.
I no longer "buy" ANY title at release. If I am interested in a title I will download it (from a torrent) to check its quality and see if it will work on my system. Many times I am quite happy I did, because the game(s) will not work on my system in spite of the fact that I always run above recomended (on the box) specs. Way to often the last few years, it is only after a patch or a new driver set is a game really playable. I also never fail to pay attention to what wonderful DRM a publisher has included with a game, as some types I will not allow on my system for security reasons or privacy concerns.
Does DRM work? Nope. Even if I buy a game, I will download the crack so I can enjoy it properly, free of DRM restrictions.
Does releasing unfinished beta's make me want to run out and buy? Nope. It wakes me download a game first to test it myself.
Do I feel good about that, no I do not. I would like to buy and own my games.
I want to support developers with my cash so they will make more games that I enjoy playing.
So whats the answer? Go back to simple DRM and release games when they are finished and playable. Until that happens I wont be paying for anything. You want my money, you can have it in bags... but only when what I buy is mine and not limited to "x" number of installs. DRM is fine, but only if you are honest about how it installs and what it does, and is 100% removed at a games uninstall.
I am a willing customer, treat me with respect and I will buy.
Treat me like dirt with unfinished buggy releases and my hardware like its something you own, and I wont be paying you a dime.
"Try before you buy" good advice with folks like EA around
And with the DRM of today being what it is, I may just not bother to pay for a DRM protected game...
Why should I? Do I own it? what did it put into my system that I cant remove? What value do I get in exchange for it?
Um... I'm pretty sure EVERYONE IS saying it's the Devs & Publishers. The only people saying it's the users is EA. Totally agree with the rest of your post though.
I just read a lot of the posts on the EA Official Forum (pre release & post release threads), EA has a big problem on their hands.
99.9% of the posts are negative. WOW! that's crazy. If I were in charge of EA I'd be pulling some serious damage control out my @ss.
But what did they expect. They have totally ignored the PC user base. Why are they even releasing games for PC? If they want good DRM they should be strictly working with the developers for console only games.