Specifications Intel KF and F line for the tenth generation - Intel Core i9-10900KF

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    So still not Sunny Cove new architecture?!
     
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    still skylake :(
     
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    "The i7-10700K will replace the i9-9900K???" That doesn't make any sense at all. I'd say the i9-10900K will replace the i9-9900K.
     
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    Is clearly written "Comet Lake-S". What is the point of spreading wrong informations?

    The i7-10700k is clearly the 9900k/s redone while the new i9 10900k is somehow superior.
    That makes sense a lot, why not @SniperX?
     
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    And Ryzen replace Intel.
     
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    Kudos to Intel for stretching 14 nm process, and these must be very power efficient. Speaking of which Ryzen is not power efficient at all as people think in fact 3700x uses more power in idle and load than 9900k

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    That's also a 12 core with far more performance so yes the 3900x is going to use more but it's also 12 core vs 8 so stop the fanboyism.
     
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    As much as I find karma777police's Intel bias to be obnoxious, he said 3700X, not 3900X. Although we have no idea where that graph came from, if it is accurate, the 3700X does have an unusually high and disproportionate idle power consumption. On the other hand... the peak power consumption is pretty good as far as I'm concerned.
     
  10. kakiharaFRS

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    I know we are in a different class of cpu in my case but
    threadripper 3960x 78.77 Watts at idle and I'm actually downclocking the cpu >< 4.15@1.24V because if I let it do it's thing it would run wildly changing around 4.3@1.4V and be 100Watts at idle
    I do this because otherwise it overheats even a custom loop as there's no real idle, it will quickly raise the coolant temp (+5°C) pumping out massive heat from my 360 55mm thick rad
    they are years behind Intel in idle power consumption, something DerBauer proved in a video where he boots both an Intel and AMD cpus without coolers ! the Intel heavily downclocks and undervolts to survive while the AMD can't do that and gets hot fast, that's what AMD needs to improve if possible

    just check this to see how hardcore watts are on a threadripper https://www.computerbase.de/forum/t...si-creator-trx40.1911145/page-2#post-23630347
    note that in guru3d reviews he also shows 830watts overall system usage so it's not "my system" that said I have almost all slots/ports including usbs in use so obviously higher power usage than a "review" build with 1 drive 1 gpu and 3 fans and higher temps than an open test bench
    I'm at v5 of the case now and v6 in a few days, completely redoing the custom wc loop, I made a mistake intaking interior air for the radiator, in idle or cpu only work I have good temps but playing heavy games like Wolcen which uses 98% of the gpu transforms the case into an oven and intaking that air suddenly becomes the worst thing you can do..I flipped my radiator fans 180° and I gained 10°C on the cpu just like that (waiting for the next nvidia/amd gen to wc the gpu, no block for my current card)

    there's no fanboyism at all I have a 9900k build next to the AMD right now ><
    Intel boots waaaaayyy faster and runs cooler but...keep in mind in my case AMD has triple the cores !!! and does it heats 3x more ? nope so it's a success for me but still don't expect more cores to be free and run cooler also in the case of TR be ready to go custom loop

    p.s. I can run it 4.35/4.4Ghz (gave me 14'5xx in cinebench r20) but zero interest to do that it just runs way too hot for almost no gain other than a few points in benchmarks or a few fps in encoding, I would never have believed I would downclock a cpu in my life lol my 9900k I ran at 5.1Ghz all cores
     
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    The 10700K doesn't even all core to 5.0. That's a little disappointing.
     
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    What is this ?? :D
    https://********/L6rhYJw/9900k.png
     
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    We are still missing the most important info about the new CPUs, their prices!....
     
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    windows 10 pro, just installed can be pretty much not idling when is not doing anything ( you see ). So it may be possible that ryzen does not hit idle state or that intel has more idle states available.

    my 2700x starts at all cores a 2.2ghz that is like its idle state. After i run something on windows it never go back to that frequency anymore, but i suppose its windows fault that is always doing something in the backgruond.

    (i have nothing other than windows 10 + nod32 + logitech gamin suite for the keyboard and mouse, windows search is disabled, cortana is disabled, windows defender is off )

    I also do believe that intel 7nm cpu will be more efficent thatn 7nm ryzen cpu, but we do not have them yet.
     
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    Comet Lake is based on the Skylake architecture. Sunny Cover is the next architecture with much deeper and wider execution ports. Was announced aaaages ago, but still nowhere to be seen in desktop.
     
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    yep ice lake based on sunny cove is already old, im waiting for tiger lake
     
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    There is something wrong with your watercooling system if it overheats at idle:
    Pump speed 100%?
    Fan speed working correctly at idle?
    Idle Mhz?
    What is "overheating"?
    Is the CPU head clean?

    I have no problem aircooling my overclocked 1700 using about 110-120W, threadripper die should be much easier to cool.
     
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    Correct. I compared 9900x to 3700x. I apologize for not providing an original link

    https://www.extremetech.com/computi...0x-and-ryzen-7-3900x-reviewed-red-storm-ryzen
     
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    I said 3700x, not 3900x
     
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    From what I know, a new 1200 Socket motherboard is PCIe 4 ready however Intel did not manage to have Comet Lake support it. We will be seeing that with the next gen CPU which will also run on 1200 socket before Intel switched to 1700 socket and that's where the fun begins as Intel will have their version of stacking CPU Cores.

    As far as pricing goes 10900k is in fact $499 directly competing 3900x.

    A big unknown is Intel 2066 socket, perhaps the longest supported socket for the past 10+ years. We have already seen three CPU generations on it and speaking of 2066 socket, it can handle any power requirement and it is very stable.

    2066 had the latest revision where Intel added wi-fi 6 to it among other things and they enabled additional pins on 2066 CPU giving extra PCIe lines. Interestingly enough being such robust chipset that is x299, I would not be surprised if Intel stick with 2066 socket on newer chipset supporting PCIe 4 down the road and also makes new HEDT CPUs compatible with older 2066 boards.
     
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