Yea and their quality is not only better than onboard but so are their specs. From not only the reviews which all are impressed by the sound quality but us owners as well. Their cards are not “crummy” and never have been. Their software on the other hand hasn’t always been the best. But what a troll post. The card has already been out for a while now, the majority of people posting in here already own one or will be getting one. This is not the thread for onboard discussion or pointless troll posts that just completely derails the thread for absolutely no damn reason.