softmod 5900xt to quadro3000£¬ seems im the luck one

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  1. rui0317

    rui0317 Master Guru

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    softmod 5900xt to quadro3000£¬ seems im the lucky one

    2500+ OC 3200+
    512 DDR400 (single)
    Albatron KX18D PRO II
    5900XT (MADE BY Albatron) 128MB(2.5NS 256bit) 300/390/700
    R.T 14.3 NY softmod (no hardmod)

    SPEC 7.1
    5900xt (390/700)
    Run All Summary

    ---------- SUM_RESULTS\3DSMAX\SUMMARY.TXT
    3dsmax-02 Weighted Geometric Mean = 13.02

    ---------- SUM_RESULTS\DRV\SUMMARY.TXT
    drv-09 Weighted Geometric Mean = 49.02

    ---------- SUM_RESULTS\DX\SUMMARY.TXT
    dx-08 Weighted Geometric Mean = 63.84

    ---------- SUM_RESULTS\LIGHT\SUMMARY.TXT
    light-06 Weighted Geometric Mean = 12.87

    ---------- SUM_RESULTS\PROE\SUMMARY.TXT
    proe-02 Weighted Geometric Mean = 13.21

    ---------- SUM_RESULTS\UGS\SUMMARY.TXT
    ugs-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 7.538


    softmod to quadro 3000 (470/740)

    Run All Summary

    ---------- SUM_RESULTS\3DSMAX\SUMMARY.TXT
    3dsmax-02 Weighted Geometric Mean = 24.58

    ---------- SUM_RESULTS\DRV\SUMMARY.TXT
    drv-09 Weighted Geometric Mean = 138.3

    ---------- SUM_RESULTS\DX\SUMMARY.TXT
    dx-08 Weighted Geometric Mean = 131.6

    ---------- SUM_RESULTS\LIGHT\SUMMARY.TXT
    light-06 Weighted Geometric Mean = 28.18

    ---------- SUM_RESULTS\PROE\SUMMARY.TXT
    proe-02 Weighted Geometric Mean = 37.77

    ---------- SUM_RESULTS\UGS\SUMMARY.TXT
    ugs-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 47.90

    SPEC test for maya 5.0 ,twice. And who can tell me whats that mean?

    Overall Scores | Overall Scores
    GFX 2.02 | GFX 2.16
    I/O 1.02 | I/O 0.85
    CPU 1.25 | CPU 1.35
    Overall 1.72 | Overall 1.79

    not the best ,but for me ,that's enough.

    and i would like to thank Mr. Unwinder !
    thank you very much!!
     
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  2. Bluefirexp

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    ??!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

    How did you manage to get SUCH a HIGH ugs-03 score?? All mods until now show, that FX5800>FX2000 makes a real Quadro clone and ugs-03 is high.
    Still, FX5900>FX3000 mods get great performance boost also but ugs-03 is still low! So are you sure you didn't also hardmod your card?? :eek:

    Tell also which driver did you use, plz. You are the ONLY one who gets SUCH a high UGS score from a Softquadro mod of FX5900..
     
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  3. rui0317

    rui0317 Master Guru

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    i don't know, it just work!
    no hardmod !!
    i followed the standard step:
    use 45.28 (45.23 work too)

    and:
    softquadro
    NVStrap antiprotection
    DetonatorFXAntiprotector
    AnisoBoosterOGL w2k (import ,skip this step ,GL app cause crash!! and that one of the reason 5X.XX cant work)
     
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  4. Bluefirexp

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    this is making me crazy. Maybe there is something different on Albatron cards and you get a real Quadro clone!
     

  5. rui0317

    rui0317 Master Guru

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    im not the only one !!
    i have seen more than five, not only Albatron.

    regedit

    and
    HKEY_LOCK_MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Services/nv/Device0

    and i got a lot information from there! includ "OGL AAlineGama ....."setting
     
  6. Bluefirexp

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    what do you mean not the only one? Of course there are a lot of people here, including me, who have modded FX5900 to FX3000. And we all get high Specviewperf 7.1 scores, BUT ugs-03 is always low but you get 47.90! The rest of us get about 9.7 or just a lil higher. Your score is about 5 times faster.
    You mean you've seen people in other forums with high ugs-03?
     
  7. rui0317

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    "in other forums "tht what i mean
    someone use Gainward 5900xt got 51.26!
    and i know if you get the score of ugs-03 between 35 ~48,you succeed.

    X-bios Editor
    my vediocard bios :4.35.20.32.01
    club3d use this bios too :http://www.mvktech.net/download.php?view.34
    device id 0331
    VESA product name : V35 board p177h-4n
     
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  8. rui0317

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    i test again:
    ugs-03 Viewset
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Test Weight Frames DLB Visual Double Frame Buffer Depth Stencil
    # Per Sec Sec ID Buffer Red Green Blue Alpha Buffer Buffer
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1 16.50 39.1 N/A 4 True 8 8 8 0 24 0
    2 16.50 43.8 N/A 4 True 8 8 8 0 24 0
    3 16.50 30.1 N/A 4 True 8 8 8 0 24 0
    4 16.50 32.7 N/A 4 True 8 8 8 0 24 0
    5 8.50 57.9 N/A 4 True 8 8 8 0 24 0
    6 8.50 66.3 N/A 4 True 8 8 8 0 24 0
    7 8.50 54.5 N/A 4 True 8 8 8 0 24 0
    8 8.50 59.1 N/A 4 True 8 8 8 0 24 0
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ugs-03 Weighted Geometric Mean = 42.68


    lower , but still good.
     
  9. Bluefirexp

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    if i only knew what makes the difference...maybe XT cards are somewhat different, or did you see high UGS on non-XT cards also?
     
  10. rui0317

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    just 5900xt .

    maybe you wanna googling for quadro fx700, the new one of the quadro family, same design with 5900xt (p177 board)
     

  11. AlecRyben

    AlecRyben Ancient Guru

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    Quadro FX 700 is not a NV35GL part, it's a NV31GL (GeForce FX 5600 equivalent)

    And by the way, which stepping is your GPU?
    A1, A2 or A3?

    I am only guessing some of the chips can be real Quadro clones if the batch/stepping is right...
     
  12. rui0317

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    check here:
    http://www.leadtek.com.tw/workstation_graphic/quadrofx_700_1.shtml

    it's just look like 5900xt with p177 board ,and 256-bit memory interface supported !!!
    quado fx 700 and quadro 600 PCI are new !!

    about the stepping of my GPU :
    "256-bit AGPNV35 (A1) with 128MB DDDR" from my R.T
     
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  13. Bluefirexp

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    hm, rui0317 is right!
    Indeed, the first time the Quadro FX 700 appears is in the 60.60 driver and it is indeed NV35GL! :eek:

    Look here from nv4_disp.inf of the forceware 60.60 :



    NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_0338.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3000"
    NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_033F.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 700"



    So it seems, that some 5900XT boards are twins of the Quadro FX 700 boards and that's why EVEN if set to FX3000 they give high ugs!! That's indeed great news...
     
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  14. rui0317

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    yah !! that what i realy mean :" great news... " !!
     
  15. dapperdan

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    wow, interesting results !
    You made Bluefirexp day ;)
     

  16. AlecRyben

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    I am totally confused by NVIDIA.
    Someone should force them to set the record straight and show us the beef. ;)

    Last time i checked (on the 3D Festival in Kopenhagen, where they were showing off "Gelato") they said that the new "low entry" solution replacing the Quadro FX 500 (the Quadro FX 700) was based on NV31GL?

    If the Quadro FX 700 is based on NV35GL, how can they say that Quadro FX 1000 and Quadro FX 1100 are better/more expensive cards?

    I don't see anyone buying anything but Quadro FX 700, since you will be getting a Quadro FX 3000 equivalent for one third of the price... ;) :D
     
  17. Bluefirexp

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    Yes and it's funny to see on Nvidia website how FX 700 is slower than FX1000 and FX1100, though it has a 256-bit mem. interface and nearly twice the bandwidth.
    Maybe the clocks are drastically lowered because the card is passively cooled :

    [​IMG]

    Although it's hard to belive that a NV35GL is cooled by such a small heatsink :p
     
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  18. rui0317

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    NV31GL better than V35GL ?! NOT a million years !
     
  19. AlecRyben

    AlecRyben Ancient Guru

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    Yes, the Quadro FX 700 is definitely an extremely underclocked Quadro FX 3000. It's probably clocked at a fixed (no 2D/3D mode) 300/600 speeds or lower. That's why they can get away with just a passive cooler.

    I bet that this babies can be converted to an FX 3000 just by flashing the BIOS and putting a beefier cooling system.

    Here are the comparisons between the 700, 1000 and 1100

    Quadro FX 1100
    Chip NV36GL
    Number of pipelines 4
    Memory Size 128MB
    Memory Interface 128-bit
    Graphics Memory Bandwidth 10.4GB/sec.
    proe-02 37.9
    ugs-03 36.5
    3dsmax-02 26.9

    Quadro FX 1000
    Chip NV30GL
    Number of pipelines 8
    Memory Size 128MB
    Memory Interface 128-bit
    Graphics Memory Bandwidth 9.6GB/sec.
    proe-02 36.2
    ugs-03 33.0
    3dsmax-02 26.6

    Quadro FX 700
    Chip NV35GL
    Number of pipelines 8
    Memory Size 128MB
    Memory Interface 256-bit
    Graphics Memory Bandwidth 17.6GB/sec.
    proe-02 32.5
    ugs-03 31.5
    3dsmax-02 23.5

    *SPECviewperf® 7.1.1: for more information visit www.spec.org. Tested on 3.2 GHz Pentium® 4, Driver Release 60.60
     
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  20. AlecRyben

    AlecRyben Ancient Guru

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    And by the way, where can you see the board version (p177) on 5900xt cards?

    Is it printed on the PCB or you only have to watch for a similar layout of components?

    I have already found another pic of Quadro FX 700 with somewhat similar but different layout.

    [​IMG]

    Notice the missing capacitors and a missing fan plug on this one (on the the lower edge, left of the AGP connector)
     

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