So many choices...

Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by Frohman0905, Apr 14, 2008.

  1. Frohman0905

    Frohman0905 Master Guru

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    Less than a month and then it's my birthday!!!!
    That means only two things: lots of beer and a new computer upgrade.
    This year I have decided to go for a new videocard. I really like my 8800gts 320 but since I started playing games like word in conflict, company of heroes, call of juarez etc. The 320mb of vram just isn't enough. I also want the extra performance boost :D
    Now some of you will say that my cpu will bottleneck the card but since my mobo died last month, I went to the am2 socket. I now have a 5200+ and ddr2 ram so the bottleneck will be less.
    Now the big question is: which card? The last few months, a lot of cards came out with few performance differences between them. I'll start by saying which I can afford.

    - 8800gt 512
    - 8800gts 512
    - 8800gtx 768
    - 9800gtx 512

    I am pretty sure that I can afford the first two. But about the other 2 I'm not sure. The 8800gtx is going pretty low right now but I'm not sure if it will still be in stock in about a month.

    Now which one? I will be gaming at 1280x1024 and I know some people will say that my 8800gts 320 is just fine for gaming at that resolution but it's not in the games I've mentioned. I want a card that is a little future proof. That's why I'm kinda leaning towards the 8800gtx because of the memory bus and the vram. I have also read that the difference between the 8800gtx and 9800gtx is very little.
     
  2. dukedave5200

    dukedave5200 Ancient Guru

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    At that resolution I would say either the GTS512 or the GTX512 and overclock them...

    At 12x10, you won't need more than 512MB, even with many levels of AA. If you plan on getting a different monitor that does 1920x1200, then you might want to consider the 8800GTX... But if not, then the 8800GTX is not going to be as good as a heavily overclocked GTS512 or GTX512...

    Since you want a "boost" then I wouldn't even consider the 8800GT... Even though it would certainly be a boost over the GTS320 -- it probably won't be enough to detect or notice the improvement. With a GTS512 or GTX512 the difference at even stock clocks would be noticable. But you will want to overclock either of those for the best boost.
     
  3. allesclar

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    you would be better off getting a core duo imo. but graphics wise, i would say the 8800gtx is best.
     
  4. Frohman0905

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    I know, but since my budget was thight I had no other choice. If I want a core 2 duo, I want a good one and I couldn't afford it. I'll probably go intel next year :)
    Thanks for your responses and keep the advice coming!!
     

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    Frohman0905 Master Guru

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    Well I did some more research with my "estimated" budget and I have narrowed it down to 2 options. Since my ram usage in vista is huge (noticeable in battlefield 2), maybe it's better to add an extra gig of ram. Why not 2 gigs? Because I have vista home premium 32 bit and it won't see the full 4 gigs. Now because of the 3 gigs of ram, dual channel will not work. So will my pc be slower with 3 gigs of ram instead of 2 gigs?

    Here are my choices:

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    XFX Nvidia 8800GTS 512 stock
    OCZ (3x1GB) DDR2-800 XTC Gold GX CL5 5-5-12
    This will cost me 253.90 EUR

    2.
    XFX Nvidia 8800GTX 768 XT 600/1900
    Kingston Valueram 1GB DDR2-667 (I now have 2 gig of the same brand)
    This will cost me 246.50 EUR

    One of these two will be my final choice. Thanks for the help!
     
  7. The Kyle

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    I would go #2 unless you plan to do major overclocking.
     
  8. Frohman0905

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    No I probably won't. I'll probably overclock my cpu to 3ghz. Is the difference between 667 and 800 big?
     
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    Hm. . . I'm wondering if the 8800 gtx will actually perform lower than a g92 at 12x10. I think I've heard that it's not so hot on lower resolutions. Anybody know anything more about that? Or am I perhaps confused?
     
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    Yeah, def get a 8800GTX but get a duo or quad core
     

  11. Frohman0905

    Frohman0905 Master Guru

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    @Alec
    I really don't know what to do here actually. The G92 is cooler and overclocks more and at 1280x1024 the performance difference between the G92 and 8800gtx is very small.
    But on the other hand, the extra memory on the 8800gtx can help out in some games. Even at that resolution.
     
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    Go for the 8800GTS 512 G92,I heard its a monster to OC.
     
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    Accoording to the 9800gtx review on this site even at 1024x768 the 'stock' 8800GTX performs better than the the 'stock' 8800GTS 512 in almost all the games, between those two the 8800gtx would be the better choice imo.
     
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    Ok I have just measured the space between the hdd cage and the other side of the case and it's 10.63 inch long. The 8800gtx is 10.5 inch long. That will be very close. My case is an Antec Solution SLK3000B. You guys think it will fit properly?
     
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    You'll have more than a tenth of an inch of wiggle room! I hope your card and your hard drives like to cuddle.
     

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    Let's put it like this. I have the exact same RAM as you do right now (Kingston ValueRAM 2x1gb DDR2-667), and the performance gain between my old DDR400 and this? I couldn't feel it. So I doubt you'd feel a difference if upgrading to DDR2-800, maybe one fps, but will you ever notice it?

    Regards,
    Peezee.
     
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    According to Hilbert's review data, at 1024x768 the stock 8800 gtx even outclasses the 9800 gtx on every game he tested except frontlines. It was a fair piece ahead of the gts 512. The downside: the cheapest 8800 gts is still $100 more than the cheapest 8800 gtx, and you may not really notice a difference in the several frames you gain over the gts 512.
     
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    But you're also playing on a 7600 and a P4. That may have something to do with it.

    EDIT: sorry for the multi-post. I was writing my first one when peezee posted.
     
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    I was refering to comments about 1280x1024 showing no fps difference between the two cards, the price difference has already been considered according to the op's choices but is ofcourse valid.

    The fps difference effect would be relative to the application in question, for crysis even a few fps would be considerable and maybe this points towards what is yet to come.
     
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  20. Frohman0905

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    Thanks for your comments!

    @clintonius: Ok then I don't have to worry about fitting the card. I really like the 8800gtx but I was doubting because of its size.

    @protocol: I think I'm going for the 8800GTX then. It's still one of the best there is.

    I'll tell you guys what each XFX card costs over here in Belgium:

    XFX 8800GTS 512: 199 EUR
    XFX 8800GTS 512 XXX: 219 EUR
    XFX 8800GTX 768 XT: 229 EUR
    XFX 9800GTX 512: 279 EUR

    As you can see, the 8800GTS and 8800GTX are very close in price while the 9800GTX has a gap of 50 EUR between it and the 8800GTX.
     

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