Seagate launches HDD that perform asSATA SSD and capacity of up to 18TB

I don't know the specifics but from memory I read somewhere that traditional HDDs last much longer than SSDs without power running through them for extended period of time or something along those lines.

 

I've heard data bit-rots on unpowered SSDs over-time.

 

Can technically happen to mechanical too (in different ways). I wouldn't leave a drive unpowered for years on end basically. Ideally power on the drive once or twice a year and read through all the sectors in some way.

Atm, yes. I've got 4x 12TB in RAID10 in my NAS, if I would've bought that in SSD's I would only have 1 kidney now xD

Though once high capacity SSD's become really affordable it's going to be time to switch to 5 & 10 Gbit networks. Until then 2.5 Gbit will suffice for me (just installed it yesterday) as I'm already hitting the HDD read/write speed as a bottleneck on the NAS:

 

if they do at current HDD prices that would epic, alot people that buy SSD sata drives will no longer by them, forcing SSD Sata and or Nvme drive prices way down.... probably wishfull thinking

SSD sata or nvme prices are still WAY to high. 4TB HDD for 65$ 4TB of SSD/NVME are beyond 400$ in most cases...

 

my server is the same kind you see in LTT videos it would cost me +-27'000$ in SSDs lol
that said I have ssds with up to 25'607hours never had a problem with them
M.2 nvmes fyi this year I had the second garbled C: drive (1st was in 2020 I believe) because of unstable DDR5 or cpu overclock I crashed too many times and I started having "cannot read files" errors, tried to clone my C:/ and it failed not that the drive has faults, the files are badly written !!! it happened to me twice in less than 5 years, I do not trust M.2 nvmes at all

I have mostly raid1s 10Gbit is actually useful, with many drives I can transfer to different ones in parallel and often stack 2-3x 200mb/s file transfers, do I need it no do I want things to be done quick and move on to something else, yes

hardware changes didn't do much this month but still

 

Very interesting, I believe I waited so long for this I totally forgot about it. Nice to see though I was just looking at 18-20TB drive because my 16TB is almost full. This will also be amazing for ppl who have 500 steam games and TB's worth of arcade roms.

 

Astyanax answered you above.
To clear up the apparent large discrepancy, Sata 3 is not 6 GBytes/s, its 6 Gbits/s.
Note the small "b" in Gb.

 

But if its a backup drive you are going to back up to it regularly, no? Otherwise whats the point of having a 5yr old backup lol. Cold storage, ye i can see it being an issue.

 

My last mechanical hdd was a brand new western digital black 8TB a few years ago. When i finished doing a back up of all my huge lifetime pictures taken and videos of family and friends it died two days later with unrecoverable errors and it suddenly just stop working , long story short i lost everything that i backed up on that mechanical hdd within 2 days of installing it on my pc brand new.

Since then i have never bought another mechanical hdd and only SSDs or Nvme's for me from now on , lucky me i have never had an ssd or nvme die on me on many , many years of use. Hence why i do not trust mechanical drives anymore. I'll pass on this aberration of hybrid's hdd new generation and now on this dual actuator on them = twice the chance of failing

 

Interesting. Mind telling me make/model so I can look into one of them myself.

 

This is why the only drives I have bought in the last 8+ years have been HGST NAS/Helium Enterprise or the newer Western Digital Helium Enterprise drives.
More robust.

Only problem was about 5 years ago when my watercooler sprung a leak causing the CPU to overheat and crash.
This ruined the FAT on a then 2yr old 4TB drive (HGST NAS) needing a full recovery, was quite a pita.
That now over 7 year old drive continued working great and still works flawlessly today in my 3090 gaming machine.
The fault wasn't the drive but the CPU locking up at an unfortunate moment. The CPU also still works great, am typing this post from it

I've never had to retire an HGST drive due to failure, only because they became too small.
2x 1TB drives with a stupid number of hours on the clock after running 24/7 for years have been trusted with cold storage for 4 years so far with no problem.
My 5 larger HGST drives are still in service including a 10 year old 4TB USB drive.
Sadly HGST are no more but luckily WD bought them and their Enterprise Helium drives have proven to be just as reliable which is why I bought an 18TB.
fyi

 

Samsung 870 QVO 8TB. It goes on sale on Amazon fairly often so gotta hunt for deals. That's how I got mine for this price.

 

Good grief that's why im sticking with air even though aios perform better

 

Well at least it has huge cache headroom cause qlc alone reads/writes very,very slow

 

Are they the DC HC5XX series of HDD?

I am participating in a group buy for high capacity drives on a bargain hunting site here in Australia and I was planning to pick up the Seagate EXOS X18 16TB for USD192 but there is option for the WD HC550 for USD260.

 

You do you

 

Yep, HC550 WUH721818ALE6L4 HE18.
For sure get a HC550 drive, they run cool + quiet.

 

lol, an aio wouldn't have leaked, this was a custom loop where an overtightened circlip bit into the pipe.
I've had a 420mm Arctic Liquid Freezer II aio on my 10700K for almost 2yrs without a problem. Its a pretty damn good cooler!

 

Just requested them to change it to the WD haha hope they haven't processed my original order yet.

 

Yes that's the limitation of this drive, however this is never a problem in day to day use. 4TB and 8TB models have a cache of 87GB I think, and how often do you write 87GB at a time? Personally I don't think I ever observed this limitation, I just know at the back of my head that it's there. And of course this doesn't affect read spreads whatsoever. So yeah, this drive is cheap for a reason, but you still get all SSD benefits like amazing access times, which is the most important. Also, 8TB model has insane write durability. I calculated that it would last me 500 years of wiring at current pace to use it up lol (~6TB/year) Basically, this SSD, even with that QLC limitation, is like 100x better than having crappy HDD rust bucket