Seagate going for 14 and 16TB HDDS

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  1. HeavyHemi

    HeavyHemi Ancient Guru

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    That's because the technology was advancing so fast that huge capacity increases were driving down the cost per byte. For this particular storage technology, advances have become incremental as the technology matured. You're not seeing a doubling or more in capacity in a single year.
     
  2. tsunami231

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    No but people on these forums have hard on for ****ting on seagate..

    in 25+ years I have been using 1 seagate only I only had drive out right fail. and by that mean it was unaccessible unbootable unrecognizable cant say same for WD/Quantum few other drive I tried.

    All drive at some point have bad sector. no mater the manufacture
     
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  3. HeavyHemi

    HeavyHemi Ancient Guru

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    I think it goes in cycles...Years we had some equipment that used ancient Seagate 20MB drives. When it got a little chilly on the test floor, sometimes I had to manually get the drive to spin up with a Q-tip.
     
  4. abula

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    I have really good experience with 4tb seagates (own 8, none one have failed yet, finger crossed). My favorite storage drive atm is WD Red 3tb, very quiet, runs cool, but i recently tried the an 8tb WD Red, and ran like 10C higher than my 3tb and it was noisy, enough to make me not use it.

    People should get out of the branding and favoritism, specially on helium drives, its a like a new beginning, personally im looking forward to Seagate Iron Wolf NAS 10tb, just waiting them to go down in price some, probably when the 12tb hit the market.
     

  5. anticupidon

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    guys, maybe i am a bit paranoid or something, but there is always a trade off.
    The increase of the storage is done by using HAMR.
    Care to see what it really is about ?
    Here it is
    Heat-assisted magnetic recording (HAMR) is a magnetic storage technology for hard drives in which a small laser is used to heat the part of the disk that is being written to. The heat reduces the coercivity of the material, hence allowing the head to write on materials with higher coercivity, which in turn allow for smaller grain size which is limited by the superparamagnetic effect hence increasing the maximum possible areal density. The net effect of HAMR is to allow writing on a much smaller scale than before, greatly increasing the amount of data that can be held on a standard disk platter.

    The technology was initially seen as extremely difficult to achieve, with doubts expressed about its feasibility. As of 2016, no hard disks using HAMR are currently on the market, but HAMR is in an advanced state of development with demonstration drives produced by companies such as Seagate. While TDK originally predicted that HAMR hard disks could be commercially released in 2015, the best estimate as of December 2015 is that they will arrive in 2018.
    Not saying that it's bad, but bye-bye data recovery, as we know it.
     
  6. Corrupt^

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    I welcome higher capacity HDD's.

    I want to build a NAS but currently no HDD size would fit me because I simply have to much data.

    I would obviously make sure I have as much redundancy as possible though, having a 16 to 20TB fail... ouch. Plus for my home environment if a rebuild needs to happen, unlike in businesses, I can leave the NAS to do its thing for a week if need be.
     
  7. holystarlight

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    Too much data? Im running a NAS with 12 x 10TB HDDs (Raid 10)... anything is possible!

    I love the idea of higher capacity HDDs but the price at the moment is just crazy, And the thought of having 16TB of data on a Seagate drive makes me cringe.
     
  8. r3claim3r

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    I'd be more excited if it was from a more reputable brand like HGST.
     
  9. Undying

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    Didnt had good experience Seagate (probably not only one) then i went WD and bought a Black drive.

    You know how they say, once you go black...
     
  10. VENGEANCE

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    I dont give a f@#$%ck.
    Look on Amazon...98 percent of all Seagate drive failures are there 5 and 8 tb hard drives...they cant even fix that...why get excited about 12-20 gig hard drives...yippeee f@#$%cken doo..
     

  11. slyphnier

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    well all either based personal experience or just personal opinion
    no need to think much about it, if you believe seagate hdd is good

    most home(SOHO) user that use hdd less than 100 unit dont means anything over hdd failure rate
    but when many people saying they got their hdd failing especially on specific type/batch then it can be a sign/alert

    why not just make your own NAS unit using mini-atx board and raid card
    rather buying branded NAS system
    the total spending should cheaper if not same
    you can make like 32TB(8x4) RAID10 or 5

    the only cons probably u dont get support for software/OS
    where branded NAS is getting nice/easy
    but AFAIK nowdays opensource NAS OS like freeNAS is as good as most branded NAS

    well HGST basically WD, as they bought it
    what make you think HGST making better HDD over WD now ?
    i personally think that HGST is just rebranded/re-labeled WD HDD

    well many people, including me have good experience with black drives
    except you picky with noise and over-worried with hdd temp

    imo extra price for reliability on black drives is worth enough
    5year warranty means nothing if it failed before the warranty over, i never trust RMA drives, as it seems refurbished drives
     
  12. main_shoby

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    16 TB HDD? I don't see it as a backup solution. I see it as a pirate super cruise warship! lol. also, I think Seagate should invest in its own internet service :p
     

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