Seagate going for 14 and 16TB HDDS

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Seagate is going to be pushing the envelope and will develop up-to 16 Terabye HDDS. They want to do so within the next your and a half. They also aim to please a bit higher, a 20TB HDD to be launched ...

    Seagate going for 14 and 16TB HDDS
     
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    mbk1969 Ancient Guru

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    Question is, can you trust Seagate with that much data on one drive?
     
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    kosh_neranek Master Guru

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    Use RAID 10 and keep your fingers crossed that once you will have to rebuild it won't fail.. :)
     

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    There are no HDD manufacturers whose disks avoided troubles. With that sizes these HDDs aimed for professional/enterprise niches, imo. And usually these niches receive big warranty periods and also are equipped with backup solutions.
     
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    tbh RAID isn't a replacement for backups but i get what you mean :)
     
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    No, which is why you don't just buy one, you buy several of them, which is good for Seagates business ;)
     
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    Too much porn is not healthy.
     
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    I suspect if porn will go to 3D then 16TB will not be enough.
     
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    Back in our time every new top HDD was replacing the old in a model row with same price tag. Since 3TB every new HDD cost more more and more. I guess Seagate and WD are intentionally killing HDD market off.
     

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    lucidus Ancient Guru

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    I 'member posting I wouldn't trust 4TB on a seagate drive and now I find myself in a similar thread for an enormous 14TB drive. Damn.
     
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    i was clearly Anti-Seagate but since we use them at work, i have changed my mind...

    exept the noise "Dzzziiiiii" (moment of stress for me :) ) that they do sometime they are really reliable since years (and less expensive than WD... but WD is WD :) )
     
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    HDD marked needs a dual motor (internal RAID) drive, not just for storage, if no for speed, clearly they canĀ“t compete but if they offers capacity, speed and price, they could survive a bit more...

    :pc1:
     
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    Oculus porn (4096x2048 60fps) 7GB for 30 min.. need more space :D
     

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    Seagate seem to be a mixed bag.

    On reliability, the reports from Backblaze and other similar sources suggest that there were a massive drop in reliability on their 2,5TB , 3TB and 4TB units. However the same sources point out that the failure rate for the 6TB and specially the 8TB models is quite low.

    There is one particular thing I specially like about Seagate. They include way more key parameters in their SMART values than other brands, which is very useful for the user. AFAIK Western Digital do not inform about the high flight error rate in SMART (for example). In a normal HDD this value would grow slowly over the years meaning just old age. However a quick rise of the parameter in a short period of time seem to be strongly correlated to drive failure. I recently got one 8TB and two 10TB Ironwolfs. The 8TB one is fine but both of the 10TB ones reported a quick rise of the value just after the first format, so I sent them back. These drives are quite expensive and I can not afford a failure in the short term.
    On the one hand Seagate got two returned drives but on the other hand my future high capacity HDDs will likely be Seagate ones as long as they keep this policy towards the user (and the good reliability figures of course).
     
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    I wonder .Is this the sign that HAMR is already used ?
    If so, we can kiss goodbye our "ancient " recovery tecniques, and we'll evetually buy more HDDs from them just for backing up .
     
  20. slyphnier

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    well seeing that the hdd capacity raise the level again
    basically 2x what previous gen capable to...
    so it seems hdd not going anywhere soon

    now for SSD wonder if most maker will keep racing toward to capacity (keep getting bigger) ?
    i personally prefer they improve controller (for performance,stability etc.) over capacity
    1TB is enough for most pc... 2~4TB for gamer, except you like to keep chunking big games and never uninstall it even u dont play it anymore

    over 4TB should go for NAS, as that much usually for movies collection, hi-res audio, pictures, data archive etc. ... such those no need for SSD
     

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