Scared to trade my GTS 640

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  1. Corndog

    Corndog Master Guru

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    Hi guys,
    Yes, I know, another question regarding the GT. As you all know the trade to a GT is very tempting for us GTS owners. But I can't shake the feeling that I'm about to make a move that I may regret. While I've seen all the reviews and benchmarks that show the GT owning the GTS, I feel that maybe the benchies aren't showing everthing...or maybe even hiding something. What I mean is that, what if I end up switching and the games that come out later show that GTS outpaces the GT with 16xAF/4xAA - at a playable setting of course (I mean who cares if the GTS640 wins even by double the framerates when the frames are 10fps vs 5fps) ? I know that the games that DO show that right now are only at levels where the GTS doesn't have enough horsepower to run anyway.
    Do you guys think there will be games that I will run into that type of scenario? (Where I'll have enough processing power to run a game comfortably at the same time have an edge over the GT because of the 320-bit and 640MB. I want the faster card in ALL scenarios. Not just faster in most, but when I'm really hurtin for the extra performance. I've also heard that while the GT pulls higher frames, it just wasn't as "smooth" of a experience compared to the GTS640 at the same frames during intense situations. I dunno if that's true so I was hoping that someone that used to have a GTS640 and now a GT can tell me if that's the case. Thanks in advance! Peace.
     
  2. twtaylor

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    I don't think the increase in performance is worth trading your GTS640 yet. You might be better waiting for the G92 based GTS640, I'm sure you will see a significant increase in performance going that route instead.
     
  3. eclap

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    The difference between the 2 is negligible anyway, you'll hardly notice a 3% increase in performance. In some games the GTS is stronger yes, and if I were you I'd just keep it, you won't gain a whole lot by getting a GT.
     
  4. Corndog

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    Yea, I know about those as well. But the reason I wanted to jump at this was because I don't think I'll be able to upgrade to whatever that comes along in december (g92/g98). I will be pretty broke then. Just like I am now. The only difference right now is that I will still be able to sell my GTS at a decent price so that the GT would be free. If I wait till then, my current card will be that much harder to sell let alone get what I can now. So, what if I'm trying to make my money go as long as I could? Would the GT be the wiser choice or will I be slapped in the face later?
     
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    Well that's what I'm doing :p
     
  6. Corndog

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    Arrrrgggh!!! I'm so torn...so can anyone else answer my questions about the GT from my original post about the difference in smoothness at the same FPS during intense gaming? Is that true? The reason I must know this is because when I had my 7900GS volt modded, I got insane 3dmark06 scores. If I can remember correctly, it was 9k-10k. The real life gaming was plagued by jitters, stutters, hitches, thrashing, whatever the f****** thing was. The system the card was in had 2 gigs of RAM, so I don't think it was caused by that. So basically that's what I'm scared of most. High scores and numbers are great, but are those numbers true to real world performance gains over the g80 without it losing frames in between frames (hitches)?
     
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  7. tiggie_00

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    I owned a 8800gts and my 3dmark03 score was 28k and I returned it because I just bought it. I bought a XFX8800GT and my score went up to 36k. I feel this card is = GTX in my opinion. My 3dmark05 score is 16150 and these scores are bone stock 8800gt. I have a 600core model. So take that info to the bank. Plus I dont have the fastest cpu with no OC on the fsb either.


    Ok compared to 8800gts in smoothness. I noticed a couple games having glitching here and there. But Bioshock was smoooooooth as glass.. Actually it felt in fast forward mode compared to the 8800gts with 1680x1050 maxed settings. I actually add 16xAA now to games to just slow them down because the movement is sooo fast with the 8800gt. The 8800gt is quiet with a good airflow case. Oh almost forgot. If your having issues with glitching? I would force Vertical Sync on. That should fix the issue. I forgot I did that and the problem went away.
     
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  8. locc0ut

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    i second that not a whole lot..
     
  9. Cairo

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    In my opinion Get the GT for the reason of price in near future
    the Gts will lose a major price by the start of the year
    But the Gt could be sold and u wont lose a lot
    thats besides the performance increase especially if u get the
    Evega-SSC GT
     
  10. fr33k

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    I am selling my card to make profits and then getting the evga GT so i can step-up at a later time.
     

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    I third that. Not only will there be no noticeable increase in performance but he'd get more noise as a bonus and his system is already borderline bottlenecking the 640.
     
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    I stumbled upon this review http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/13479 and the 8800GTS 640 beats the 8800GT 512 in every test. It could be they tested at some odd resolutions or maybe its a misprint, maybe someone can test this.
     
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    Not every test. But the results are a little surprising. Thought the GT would pull the lead in all of em.
     
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    some disturbing results.
    How does the GTS 320 beat out the 640 at that res in UE3?
    wtf.
    yeah i think something was off there.
    I'll trust the other 100 reviews that say different.
     
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    You should upgrade your processor first before your GPU. I had a 3800+ for about 5 months and upgraded to a 5200+ a month and a half ago. I saw a very significant boost in performance.
     

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    His cpu is running @ 2.72ghz. It's at least on par with yours. In games anyway, you won't see a lot of difference and I'd bet that his cpu would pull the odd frame ahead of yours.
     
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    8800GTS 640 vs 8800GT 512

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    I think the above benchmarks speak for themselves, the overclocked one (which 744 seems like it might be a bit high, though with an after-market cooler, quite easy) obliterates the gts, not only that, it beats what would be the 8800gtx. The extra shaders really make a difference.

    Do the trade, mine is being mailed on monday.
     
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    Again, and Led and I had this discussion (which we're cool now :)), these are superclocked turbo mode GT's in most of the reviews. My 640 is clocked at 660/1525/2000. Run a Fear demo, or some other benchmark I can get my hands on, at 1680x1050, and let me know what settings you run it at. Just need something with a end result...average fps, score etc. Curious to see the results then, when there is not a 200mhz difference on core etc.
     

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