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Sapphire Technology Product Manager Spills Some Beans on AMD NAVI

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, May 21, 2019.

  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    water-cooled Poison Toxic...

    This sounds dangerous to me...:D
     
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    So they're comparing a 500 dollar video card to the 2070. That's not a good sign.
     
  4. Neo Cyrus

    Neo Cyrus Ancient Guru

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    Set to compete with the RTX 2070... *sheds a tear*
     

  5. Michal Turlik 21

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    Considering that my oc gtx 1080 is on par with the rtx 2070 I am wondering which the sense should be by releasing something that will be on par with a 5 years old technology...wait...maybe I got the point...cash.
     
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    Gpu's have really gotten stale the last few generations from both camps and AMD not competing at the top isnt helping. AMD on 7nm still wont be beating nvidia on 14nm which is bad.
     
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    rtx 2070 should be 499 as well, but is always sold higher. Amd cards generally drop in price after a bit.

    Who bought a 1080ti at launch price definitely bought the most longeve card i heard of.
     
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    There have been 2070's selling for 469-479 since they launched.
     
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    "AMD seems to be tackling two price points for NAVI, one is priced at $499 and the other is $399, let's call them PRO and XT GPU versions for now." I have no idea where this info comes from? Doesn't seem its from the 2 people.

    This is what we know from rumours.
     
  10. Yogi

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    Hawaii would like a word.
     
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  11. Michal Turlik 21

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    It also applies to the GTX 1080 owners...maybe better...the ti version did launch three months later.
     
  12. Undying

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    2070 is faster than 1080 in every new game, especially ones using Vulkan. Same goes for 2080 vs 1080ti.
     
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    I am on the 399.24 drivers and it is not...consider however that I got it oc.
     
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    Well, did you ask yourself about about nVidia releasing RTX 2060 and lower GPUs since they already had GPUs in those performance ranges?
    (And yes, GTX 1080 performs same way as RTX 2060. Compare OC to OC. Or Stock to Stock.)
     
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    DF video wolfenstein 2 even the 2060 outperformed 1080. Im sure Rage 2 and Doom result would probably be the same. 1080 cant even touch 2070 in such a titles.

    Mute question is why is he still using 399.24 driver.
     
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    I expect the 499 card to be watercooled/VII Triple fan only, hence the price.
    The 399 card will probably come with lower clocks/CUs and lesser aircooling.

    Looking a lot like Fury and Vega all over again.

    edit :at least its out of the door, and they can concentrate on the next stuff.
     
  17. Michal Turlik 21

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    We are going offtopic here...btw I will happily give my scores here...or better I can make a video on how rage 2 is doing...please tell me which metrics we want to use, I mean...which fps tool you want me to use and maybe I will shut up the few of you still believing in nvidia sh*t.

    Will give a FCAT try this evening and put the results.
     
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    the responses to this are (shall we say?) typical, from the typical camps.

    1) there is no doubt a triple fan wc card will add expense - typically $75-100 at retail.
    2) obviously, not all models of the top card will be wc, even if all aren't custom boards.
    3) AMD cards have better drivers over time (aka Fine Wine). my Radeon VII is already 3-5% faster since launch.
    4) the top non wc card should be $375-$425....which is much more mainstream, which is what Navi was designed to be.
    5) given the efficiencies and power draw @ 7nm, wc Navi may not actually need wc....my Radeon VII doesn't (even tho' i do have it on a custom loop). i wc the Radeon VII more for noise than the few extra fps i get.
     
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    I'm not liking those price points. I have a feeling I might be waiting longer than I thought to do a 4K upgrade. But, if these are Sapphire's prices at launch day, maybe it won't be so bad; they are typically more expensive than others.

    That doesn't make any sense... 7nm doesn't just magically make everything better. Relative to AMD's last gen stuff, it is an improvement, but you're comparing apples to oranges here.
     

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