Samsung 870 QVO SATA3 SSD tagged at 8TB Spotted on Amazon

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. illrigger

    illrigger Master Guru

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    I figured that QLC would make drives cheaper, but these are even more than TLC. That's the Samsung Tax, I guess.

    I love my 4TB 860 QVO, but that's a $100 premium for the 8TB over what you can get two 4TBs for. Ouch.
     
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    not all QLC are created equal ;)
     
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    I don't think it's the "Samsung Tax," more like it's the "I'm first, if you want me you have to pony up." As for being a premium over the 4TB, I don't see that. The cheapest I can get two 4TB 860's is about $940. So it is a better price in my opinion.
     

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    It depends what you want in all honestly. QLC, TLC etc etc

    I just watched a supermicro 4U server with 48TB go on ebay, with enterprise hard drives, for just under £350 including postage.

    That to me is a steal!!!

    Im happy as larry with my MX500's and 970 NVME, aswell as all my SATA Seagates for NAS.
     
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    Wow, this will be down to €300 in a few years and then that is end of old spinning 3.5" discs. I have 3 x 10TB and 1 x 6TB in machine at moment... the 6TB needs replacing with another 10TB drive... and if that 8TB SSD was available for same price of course I would get that instead.
     
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    I wonder what the endurance of this drive would be, being QLC, always worry about the endurance of the drives. That said this being high capicity would help with that.

    That said with the way consoles are going, I wonder what they will do to SSD's as the performance is going to be so much worse than PCIe drives, going to be an interesting couple of years coming up with this technology.
     
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    First of all we need get rid off old 3.5 drivers.. they are still noisy. Im almost there with all SSD in my main machine - i only waiting on 10-20% price decre of 4TB of SSD + HDDs in Nas.
     
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    Feels quite a bit like SATA drives will start to vanish quite soon. I have a 750GB SATA SSD and since I got a m.2 I rarely use the SATA drive at all.
     
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    IMO cheap high capacity SATA drives are perfect for 4 to 6 bay NAS. We are missing the "cheap" part, but hopefully it'll come sooner than later.
     

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    You must not have much need for mass storage then.

    If you do anything with 4K video cameras you would know how fast they fill. Couple of GB per minute of footage. Actually even most downloads these days are multi-gigabyte downloads. Games can be 80GB each.

    I have about 30TB in use and the drives are mostly full. Have to keep replacing with bigger drives ie. 2TB->4TB->6TB->10TB. I just counted 14 obsolete 3.5" drives in cabinet.

    I have similar amount of storage in home theater PC - imagine how much you need when each Bluray takes 20GB about each, and you have hundreds of movies.

    Imagine how much 50TB in SSD or NVME would cost...
     
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    I have many terabytes of space (at least 40, haven't counted), but since I do quite a bit of torrenting then SSDs are not ideal for that either.
    SSD is nowhere near ideal for mass storage yet, for games and windows I can cope with the 512GB m.2 I have, I don't actually need the 750GB drive at all. As we are moving closer to games that need fast data the SATA3 drives will be too slow anyhow.
     
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    8 TB HDD costs under $/€140 (Shuckable USB drives)

    SSDs are nowhere near close to competing in capacity, and latest QLC drives are (much) slower than a HDD when their SLC cache runs out.

    So no, they will not replace HDDs for large capacity anytime soon.

    @Kaleid , stay in line... ;-)
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    Well I think you just proved my point that big storage is not going to disappear any time soon, which was against your statement "Feels quite a bit like SATA drives will start to vanish quite soon". Too many people need to store an awful lot more than SSDs can hold now cheaply.... so big drives are not going anywhere soon.
     
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    Well, no, what I meant is that SATA SSDs are not really going to be big. There already are big m.2. SSDs, and they will only drop in price. No reason to get a SATA3 drive when the m.2.be it PCI-E 3.0 or 4.0 will easily outperform it. And take less space and not clutter the case with more cables.
     

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