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Ryzen & Windows 7

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by testcy, Jan 17, 2019.

  1. Astyanax

    Astyanax Ancient Guru

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    AMD chipset drivers are almost a joke.
     
  2. Deep Down

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    I don't like the Win10 interface (can be fixed by software which of course slows down the PC - probably negligible but it must occur), I hate not being able to control if and when I install updates - anyone have fix for this without nag screens appearing? and I have an aversion to bloatware
     
  3. Astyanax

    Astyanax Ancient Guru

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    Theres a gpedit policy you can set to prevent restarts when a user is logged on.
     
  4. minerja

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    I guess, its cos people like to have choice...

    Besides, i use XP on my Ryzen 2400G with a 750ti. Works great. Significatly lower power usage than my old XP rig. Much smoother gameplay (on XP generation games).
    Why? Because I can, and becuae I have to due to sh**y STARFORCE and other idiotic DRM systems, that are built into most of the 150 games i have from that era. Virtually all cannot be patched to remove the DRM (0fficially at least) and the DRM doesnt wotk under any virtualisation...so XP it is...why shouldn't i upgrade to a new MB/CPU and benefit?

    Besides, to an average user, what benefits does Win10 actually bring, over say Win 7 (and i dont mean security or under the hood techie benefits,that the average user doesnt give a cr&& about)
    Don't get me wrong i love XP, Win 7SP1, and Win10 64 Bit (the very first release) pretty much equally, but, with each update on each OS, lets be honest, each one has got progressively worse...
    Go compare Win 10 first release to latest....it was so much slicker...as for Win 7, SP1 is fastest of all, but SP3 plus the very last updates for smoe reason is fantastically slow....even on an SSD....

    So, back to my fist comment...it's all about choice.

    After all, no-one is demanding that you take your 10 year old car off the road, or replace that 10 year old fridge/freezer....just cos....so why should we accept the same with software...
    J
     

  5. platypus

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    I'd forgotten about this.

    About to update my 3770 and go back to AMD. Glad I came to do my research but damn this is gonna hurt, losing 7.

    I'm an old-timer and set in my ways now. I hate changes like this.
     
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  6. DW75

    DW75 Maha Guru

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    Ryzen works fine on Windows 7. It works fine on 8.1 too.
     
  7. DW75

    DW75 Maha Guru

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    I put up instructions on page 1 of this thread which shows you how to make everything work just fine.
     
  8. platypus

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    Yeah I saw that and great info. Thanks.

    But at some stage I've got to bite the bullet.

    I'm just glad I found this thread as I'd totally forgotten about it.
    I used to be a mad overclocker 20 years ago but it's a rare day I visit tech forums these days. I used to do this stuff with my eyes closed. Now I don't know what a NVMe drive is. Hahaha.
     
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  9. airbud7

    airbud7 Ancient Guru

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    I was the same way my friend..."I hate changes Grrrrr"....But when I did upgrade about a month ago it was really easy and free to! ....

    you will like win 10 just as much.
     
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  10. platypus

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    I've got a really old win 10 image on a DVD (build 7100 I think) that I made to update a laptop a few years ago. I wonder if that will work still, or is it better to use your link?

    I will always regret that update as it killed my hd7970m.
     
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  11. DW75

    DW75 Maha Guru

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    Windows 10 is a spyware infested cesspool. I don't recommend it to anyone. It is an OS for people who are willing to give up their privacy, as well as control of their own PC. I am not one of those people.
     
  12. MrBonk

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    MSI's x470 boards do support W7. But you will need a PS/2 KB*M in order to install drivers. Even if you use migration software that is supposed to add in the USB drivers it doesn't work.

    I was lucky that I still had a PS/2 KB laying around I could use to install the drivers manually with that. Other than getting the USB working (And the M.2 drive) I haven't had any issues with Ryzen and an existing W7 install (Didn't even have to uninstall my old x58 drivers for it to work. I tried it with and without and it made no difference.) The only problem I ran into was with GPT partitioning. But that's it.

    Performance is better in Windows 10 though in games and benchmarks.
    Currently running a W10/W7 dual boot


    Though I am reasonably pleased with using OpenShell to try and get W10 to look like W7 as much as possible.
    There are a lot of problems with W10 that I don't have with W7 though. So I feel the need for both.
     
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  13. DW75

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    This is not true, MrBonk. The USB 3.0 drivers work fine when added to the Windows 7 ISO. If it didn't work for you, you did it wrong. You don't need a PS/2 keyboard at all.
     
  14. LocoDiceGR

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    Nothing slows down the pc, and you can fix everything with 1 app.
     
  15. platypus

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    Ha.

    Just decided to try the upgrade.
    Went from win 7 ultimate to win 10 pro. All activated and no money changed hands.

    Stoked, many thanks!
     

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    Hi to all.
    So, i have 5960x and would like to get to the amd base again, i dont really NEED the 3900X ,but i want it :).Question is, is ryzen 3000 still working on the windows 7 ? I dont care about power plans etc. I can have a manual oc.But, does the 3000 series work ? Does the x570 chipset work ? If not, does the x470 with ryzen 3000 work ? Win7 or 8 i can live with, but not the 10.
    So, did anyone try ?
     
  17. Astyanax

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    I would sooner recommend windows 8 and then use start8, glass8 and the windows 7 theme that can be had from deviantart, you get the same function and looks of 7 and improved usb/driver capabilities from 8 (for example, UASP is not fully possible on 7, as the scsiport driver does not support SSD Trim, even if you use the asus uasp driver)
     
  18. testcy

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    Has anyone managed to successfully install Windows 7 (or 8.1) on RYZEN 3 3200G / B450?
     
  19. Clanger

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    Wrong!!! Intel DOES support windows 7 on H310C(R2.0) chipset and Biostar has a working 8th igpu driver. Windows 7 runs great and is Rock Solid Stable on i3 8300 and Pentium G5400. All i had todo is put intels usb3 drivers into the boot and install wims. :p

    https://www.ntlite.com/community/in...9th-and-10th-generation.577/page-2#post-10179

    https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/H310M-S2V-20-rev-10#kf
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/13201/intel-preps-h310-revision-with-win7-coffee-lake-support
    https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/65855/Intel-USB-3-0-eXtensible-Host-Controller-Driver
    https://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/event/H310_windowstool/

    Enjoy swallowing those words, you may need some ketchup :p
    "smug mode" is now engaged :D

    Users may also want to visit mdl and win-raid as there are quite a few threads active.
     
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  20. sykozis

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    Ok, 1 chipset is supported only by Intel on Windows 7..... So, why exactly did you respond to my post?

    Maybe you should have researched a little better. Per Microsoft, as of July 25, 2019... Intel 7th generation and later processors are not supported on Windows 8.1 and earlier.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...ported-together-with-the-windows-version-that

    So, as I said, Intel 7th Gen and later processors, lack official support on Windows 7. Microsoft has final say in what is "officially" supported by their operating system, not Intel. In fact, Windows will even notify you that your processor is not officially supported if you choose to use Windows Update, also per Microsoft.

    Also, chipsets and processors are separate components. As my post was in regards to processors and not chipsets, you should really learn the difference between them. That becomes quite important if you're going to tell someone they're wrong. There is no mention in my post of chipsets whatsoever. In fact, the term "processor" appears 3 times, while the term "chipset" does not appear at all.

    So, exactly where was I wrong about Windows 7 processor support? I provided a link, directly to Microsoft's own support article that says I'm still correct.
     

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