Ryzen 7000X3D with 100 MB of cache already planned for this year

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  1. Venix

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    I was scoffing on my monitors 48 to 75hz range . While I can not tell the difference between 60fps locked and 75 , enabling freesync with fps cap at 75 Hz it gives you a good leway you do not have to lock 60 your fps can from to 50 fps or so for a second or two and you will have no stuttering etc witch is nice !
     
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    After experiencing 144hz you can never go back. All my monitors have that now and it is so nice, even for the most basic things you wouldn't expect like scrolling web pages.
     
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    Good i dont wanna wait
     
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    You can say the same about 240hz.
     

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    You can say the same about 500hz
     
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    I wonder, though... who's supposed to buy the non X3D cache models now that they leaked they're planning to release those in 2022 still?
    Do they even launch the full lineup without 3D cache?
     
  7. cucaulay malkin

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    gonna take a lot of money to build a 1440p 240hz system,although monitors are actually quite affordable.
    you need 6900xt/3080ti no less, and a 12900k
     
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    Intelligent non-gamers are gonna prefer the standard chips, because they perform better in non-gaming tasks whilst being less expensive.
     
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  9. cucaulay malkin

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    most people
    if x3d models are gonna carry over 50% price premium like 5800x3d
    85% here in Poland
     
  10. fantaskarsef

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    Fair argument. Semi pro users probably like that performance.


    Yeah... if the price difference is that high, that's a bummer indeed.


    I was just more thinking in the way of, if AMD already spoilers their gaming CPU, most gamers won't be touching the normal lineup and already wait out, crippling AMD sales in the meantime. But I guess it all depends on price of the normal lineup, and the 3D cache lineup eventually.


    But yeah, I just checked, that price premium's hefty with the 3D cache over the standard 5800X
     

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    Price to performance on the upcoming 3Dv cache CPU's based on pricing for the 5800X3D is the worry. AMD have moved pricing up a tier across the whole range taking a leaf out of Intel's playbook but with Alder Lake things have changed, especially as Intel have kept prices in check and in fact pretty much undercut on price to performance on the gaming side with the 1200 and 12400. The 3D vcache versions will need to be priced well or they will be in trouble especially as the new 7000 series will be DDR5 only, so new motherboards on top of that. This is where Intel were smart on DDR4 and DDR5 motherboards which is going to be the same on Raptor Lake. Saved me a bundle by going for the DDR4 version and reusing my RAM on Alder Lake..Hopefully the new Zen launch will be stellar, followed by a stellar launch by Intel...we all win.
     
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    Makes sense. I hope to not experience it until the rest of our hardware is good enough to support playing modern games at 240hz... wouldn't want to ruin the current generation for myself.

    The only reason they'd perform better is if AMD fails to make a version for the top CPU again. Extra cache is super useful for compiling for example. I know tons of fellow developers who'd jump on such a model immediately, and $1000 price tag is mostly a non-issue if you can use it for work.
     
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    Good! Now for the 7950X please...
     
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    A Zen 4 5950X successor with 3DV Cache would be an incredible CPU on paper.
     
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    Well if you take a look at an earlier post I wrote (link included after), then you'll see that for the 5000 series the 3D V-Cache slowed the chip down for most productivity tasks due to not clocking as high and also not allowing overclocking:
    https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/r...nned-for-this-year.443549/page-2#post-6027872
    So if in the future there are gonna be two versions of the "top chip" you mention, one with 3D V-Cache, then the 3D V-Cache version will likely have the same handicaps - which will make it underperform the standard chip - therefore most non-gamers would still be best suited to buy the cheaper and better for productivity performing standard chip.
     
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    Hmm. I hadn't actually looked at many benches yet because it wasn't available for the top model, that's very disappointing. But maybe the next series will have a solution for them needing lower clocks - we'll see!
     
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    As a gamer only I'm still considering the 3D cache variant. Although I'm not so sold on it any more with a hefty price tag coming with it.
     
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    Intel will have a dark side ahead...
    Zen4 + 5nm + DDR5 + 5.5/5.8GHz + 3D Vcache will make Intel not talk about game anymore....
    Until the end of 2023 AMD will have 50% of PC CPU marketshare
     

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