Ryzen 7000 Could Rumored to run very Hot

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  1. cucaulay malkin

    cucaulay malkin Ancient Guru

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    no way this is 65w
     
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  3. cucaulay malkin

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    Exactly.
    And this is why most people don't trust or care about announced TDPs.
     

  5. cucaulay malkin

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    it's cooler than 10700k though.
     
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    Unlocked power limit?

    My MSI B660 Mortar board automatically detect that I have watercooling and unlock the power limit on my 12400F LOL
     
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  7. cucaulay malkin

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    I have power limit removed by default on 10700f with z490 aorus elite. don't know why.
     
  8. Glottiz

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    With a nickname like that, of course it "grabs your attention". Aka, you perfectly know this isn't a stock configuration for 13900K, just trying to make sensationalist post. Any CPU can do crazy wattage when you overclock, overvolt, etc. etc.
     
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    The K variants always have higher clock speeds.so that is to be expected.
     
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    I have tried MSI, Gigabyte and Asus boards, only Asus enforce the stock power limit and you have to dig deep inside the BIOS to remove the said power limit (I kinda hate Asus mobo for that reason).
    Asrock too would enforce the stock power limit on their cheap mobo with anemic VRM
     

  11. cucaulay malkin

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    but the power is the same. imo it's die size,rkl is bigger so easier to dissipate.
     
  12. Horus-Anhur

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    I was talking about K versions vs non-K
     
  13. cucaulay malkin

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    I meant 11700 draws the same amount of power stock vs 10700K at 5.1G but it's a few degrees cooler.
     
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    40-45 Watt during gaming, be it at 60 FPS with all cores 4.8 GHz.
     
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    Cuz the guy removed the power limit, read the video description.
     

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    Heat in and of itself doesn't matter that much. A 25W part can still reach 80C with a screaming fan, and being at 80C doesn't really matter either so long as the chip isn't losing performance. Heat starts to matter if:
    A. you can't dissipate it in a preferable way, whether that be quiet, cheap, small, or maintaining peak performance
    B. there is a lot of heat to get rid of (like 300W+) since higher wattage parts require more expensive motherboards, PSUs, and utility bills. Remember too, that heat has to go somewhere, and most people don't want a space heater on in the summer.
    That's why people like myself gripe so much about high wattage processors, because even though that doesn't necessarily mean it can't be cooled sufficiently (though that is often the case), it means you will be dealing with both problems A and B. Dealing with either one of these is, as far as I'm concerned, not "fine". In the case of the 7950X, the max power draw is high but not outrageous. Because it runs hot, that means it won't maintain peak power draw or peak performance. So, that means it does fall under problem A but not B, therefore making it "not fine".

    Unfortunately, this is the trend of flagship products. That's why I never buy them.
     
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  17. cucaulay malkin

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    of course but if you don't unlock it you lose performance.
     
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    why all of the hyperventilating?

    just use common sense and a bit of logic.
    any electrical circuit operating at speed emits a wide band of emissions from IR (heat indirectly related to power state) to RF.

    this just is

    think upon the ancient technology of valves (tubes) other than the fact they are far more resistive, they generate heat from 1Hz, let alone kHz, let alone MHz, let alone GHz. and we all know sparks generate RF as that's how radio and television works.

    now add circuit density at unprecedented levels @ node (much more than M1/M2 but as chiplets) because of the microcircuitry each CCX acts as a single hot spot which is exactly why the new heatspreader is so chunky.

    this will not be unique to AMD, this will be a defining feature of Meteor Lake at node.

    there should be no snarky comments about this for that reason either as this is just physics and not a source for fanboyism.

    Intel has long had to deal with higher power states amid increasingly resistive uArch (think +++) which is why their 8-10 gen were jokes on topic of power and heat. however, there is a silver lining to that - they've gained vital experience for ML.
     
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    4790K ran hot?
    When running it stock with a dual 120 rad I didn't see it get near the max temperatures of my current CPU @ stock with a triple 120 rad.
     
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