Ryzen 5600X and 5800X CPUs Can Have Two CPU dies

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  1. kapu

    kapu Ancient Guru

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    it's exacly opposite , 2 ccd tend to be more cool due to bigger heat dispersion . Check 3300X vs 3100 ( a fine example ).
    There is no extra power draw , cores are perma sleep with 0W draw.
     
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    False, the single CCD Ryzens are hotter because of the reduced surface area for heat transfer.
     
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    Apparently HWiNFO can already see the second CCD , anyone who has one of these CPU's would see CPU CCD2 listed next to HWifno CCD.png
     
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    no CCD2 on hwinfo on my 5800x.
     

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    That's exactly what I said.
     
  6. kapu

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    Screen shot please .
     
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    RYZEN 5800X :)
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    This is my 5800x

    RYZEN 5800x CCD1.jpg
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    5600x with a hibernated twin , it actually doesn't show a second CCD but shows it as CCD2

    5600x 2CCD.png

    My RYZEN 5800x shows CCD1 , But the 5600x with the hibernated twin shows CCD2.


    My theory is the chip was going to be a 5900x but CCD1 failed certifcation so they disabled CCD1 but kept CCD2 active to sell as 5600x thats why it shows as CPU CCD2

    There also could be some chips that were going to be a 5900x but CCD2 failed certifcation so they disabled CCD2 but kept CCD1 active to sell as 5600x , it would show like a normal single chip processor with CPU CCD1 in HWiNFO and you would never know you had a extra chip.

    It would depend which side of the 5900x failed and was disabled :)
     
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    If that is correct , my would be 1 CCD
    upload_2021-1-13_18-27-10.png
     
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    Considering people thought the 5800x would be the better processor when it came to gaming compared to the 5900x or 5950x and that turned out to not be true even if setting the processors to exactly the same speed, i have zero understanding how this could realistically affect the end result, the product.

    AMD should not be concerning themselves with naming different, yet exactly the same performant products. And if the idea is because it'll change overclocking potentially, well: There was never a guarantee of top-tier overclocking, aka the need for binning, in the first place.

    (This comment assumes that the additional die is actually used, and not completely disabled)
     
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    There will always be a latency when accessing the other die's cache. I think the gaming peformance between the 5800 and 5900 is down to better software properly using Zen. Primarily the Windows scheduler not putting part of a game on core 2 and another part of the game on core 12.

    Before Zen launched, there wasn't much consideration for things like this in "consumer" applications.
     
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    I Just figured out mine has 2 CCD's and I am not sure I am happy about it. I wonder if it does make a difference in Latency for Gaming. One of the reasons I got it vs a 5900x (besides availability) was due to single CCD. It is kind of false advertising in a way. It would be risky but cool if I could unlock more cores.

    Thinking about selling and getting a 5900x or 5950x since they are showing up at retail now....
     
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    wouldn’t worry about it, you’d not notice it
     

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    Your processor physically has 2 CCDs... Only 1 is actually active. The other CCD is completely disabled and has zero affect on performance.
     
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    So does that mean that all 5800X with CCD2 are all really failed 5950X cpus and the 5600X are basically failed 5900X's.

    I had a Phenom II X2 555BE which i got lucky with because i got to unlock it to the much faster Phenom II X4 955BE/B65 so i got 2 extra cores for free and never had a problem with it either.

    Imagine if they did it not because they are broken but like with the X2 555 which was just cut down to sell lower end products.

    Maybe these too are not done because they failed but because AMD needed to fill the market at the lower end. This is wishful thinking i suppose but hey i did it once already. Paid for a 2 core and got a 4 core instead.

    If i could unlock my 5800X to a 5950X for free then that would be amazing. Fingers crossed. :)
     
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    Just checked my 5800X from two months ago, only one CCD in HWInfo
    I doubt it will be possible to activate the 2nd die if it were there anyway, so not a concern.

    For my curren activities, this CPU is waaaay more than enough. Looking forward for next generations.
     
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    Literally nothing about it is false advertising. Literally not one thing. Not figuratively, literally.
     

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