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Ryzen 3600 Review?

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by Eastcoasthandle, Jun 24, 2019.

  1. Eastcoasthandle

    Eastcoasthandle Ancient Guru

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    Its a trusted site, but the review was done under a 470 chipset because he managed to get the CPU but not a Mainboard
    BTW this site is banned by AMD because he did things like that in the past (ignore NDA)
     
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    No overclocking :(
    So basically a Ryzen 5 3600 with a boost clock of 4.2 GHz almost equals a 9900k in single thread. It's better than 2700X in single core and almost on par in multi core.
    We do need some more info about boost clocks though.
    I'm not optimistic about the ram performance though.
    If we need X570 chipset to unlock ram performance I will be disappointed
     
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    Looks promising for sure
     

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    I hope this is a translation error, otherwise no matter how legit the test results are, the website is just.....bad.

    "the AMD Ryzen 5 3600 is a revision of the Ryzen 5 2600 that maintains the 6 cores"

    The 3600 is not in any version of the word "revision"....a revision of the 2600.....
     
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    ST score in CB of 196/197 been in other "leaks" too. If that's at around 4.2GHz, then it is damn good.

    Memory performance depends on CPU (IMC), not chipset. And quality of traces on MB in between CPU socket and memory socket.
    I would not give too much to this "review". Maybe it is real, maybe not.

    On one side, it is rather superficial. Like with stating memory clock, but not timings.
    On other hand performance differences to 2600 are in range of 12 to 22% which make it look more real. Same way as initial worse memory bandwidth/latency.
    Apparently, someone thinking about those things could have easily come with those values to make it look more real.
     
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    Google translate has it saying this:

    “The AMD Ryzen 5 3600 might seem to only mean a revision of frequencies on the Ryzen 5 2600, but with an improvement in performance of around 20% in calculation tasks, there is something else”

    Which indicates to me that they are not necessarily equating the 3600 to a revision but an evolution.
     
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    Also statements like this

    "If we take into account that when we analyzed the Ryzen 5 2600 and the Ryzen 7 2700X , the difference in consumption was 55W , that we now have a difference of 65W in this test equipment between the Ryzen 5 3600 and the Ryzen 7 2700X tells us that Energy efficiency has not improved along with the 7 nm process."

    Like...what?

    2600 is a 65 watt TDP CPU with a 3.4Ghz base, 3.9Ghz boost
    3600 is a 65 watt TDP CPU with a 3.6Ghz base, 4.2Ghz boost

    By their own test, they state the 3600 uses 10 less watts then the 2600, even though its higher frequency, higher performing CPU, yet they state "Energy efficiency has not improved along with the 7 nm process."

    ?????
     
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    Depends on BIOS settings. Let's say they do test of both chips on fixed 3.6GHz while settings minimal voltage. And then testing both at 3.9GHz again with lowers voltage for each chip.
    That would enable them to make good judgement of power draw. But I think they left those chips on auto. And that is unlikely to be fine tuned.
     
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    They don't state that it was done with anything other then default settings, that being said, even if they had moved it down, it'd still be a 10 watt savings, according to them.
     

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    I do not judge text. Maybe it is bad translation or they got lost in their thought. Mere fact that those chips can clock higher at same power draw means that power efficiency went up.
    One of things which increase power draw per clock is more transistors. We know that AMD did changes, beefed AVX and other things. That's where some power is "lost".
     
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    Yeah i'm just simply confused by this article, granted, it's all translated for me, so maybe that's the issue, it's just many things they state contradict themselves. They state no power efficiency change, yet show lower power at higher frequency, then later state something about how power has changed.

    I'll chock it up to translation being nonsense, but i don't think i'll try and read another review from this website, as it just seems.....contradictory and illogical lol
     
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    They did state it was Flare-X ram being used. Which is the kit I have running 3533 MHz with my 2700X and ROG CH7.
     
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    Doesn't FlareX ram have the highest latencies when compared to the TridentZ?

    Also, Passmark Software is stating that the 3600 has the best single thread results:
    https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

    :eek:
     

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