Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon' started by OnnA, Aug 15, 2017.
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Thanks for the share.
So now, I purchased a used MSI Air Boost Vega 56.
It has Samsung memory.
frack my life, man.
I want the Sapphire NITRO back
FPS = capped to 60, HU = Hardware Unboxed Settings (mostly Mixed Ultra/High, game still uses old DX11 lol)
"Turn on Fast Startup" in Windows 10 power options is Disabled.
you want samsung, hynix is the bad one. I have an msi v56 airboost that I morpheus'd in the downstairs computer and it has stupid hynix, mem clocks won't go over 925 without artifacting even though I've got it flashed with airboost v64 bios (even though everyone says thats impossible). looks damn good in 4k@65" tho, quite surprized how smooth it is and good it looks since you don't need AA
I think I didn't make it clear though.
I love the it has Samsung memory, but, I don't like the card itself, I wanted the Sapphire one.
sorry i know what you mean, i bought that one and couldn't stand how loud it was compared to the rest of my system, so I grabbed a nitro and have been enjoying that
Current setup, still finetuning...
Guys, what software do you use to monitor HBM2 voltages? HWiNFO always shows 1.356V no matter what I set on WattMan or OverdriveNTool
You can't set the actual memory voltage in software, only with a vBIOS mod. IIRC it's either 1.25 or 1.35V (for V56/V64).
The value shown as memory voltage in WattMan etc. is either the fabric or SoC voltage, I'v heard a few different takes, and in my experience it's generally not worth messing with too much. Lowering it shaved a few watts off of idle power for me but it also made the card more unstable.
What do you think about Radeon VII?
Double the ROPs (128)
Double the memory bandwidth (1tb/s)
Double the memory (16gb)
1:2 single vs DP performance (Vega 10 chips are 1:8 or 1:16 IIRC)
Around 30% faster than Vega 64, and pretty much on par with 2080.
Over 60% faster than Vega 64 in OpenCL
Awesome triple-fan brushed aluminium cooler
700$ with DMC 5, RE2 and The Division 2
^^ ATI have thrown a "bone" to Radeon Enthusiasts, that's Good from Market perspective..
IMO It's cool GPU, when it comes down to ~599-650€ then it will be no-brainer.
When it will trade Blows (win in some, loose in some) with 2080 then it is Great GPU for sure.
We need Proper tests (preferably Enthusiasts w/UV w/OC) to get Real picture.
For Users like me (with Vega LiQuiD) it is wise to wait for another uArch (with RT* and some new Tech**),
BTW next upg. for me is ZEN 3000 then Arcturus in refined 7nm.
* ATI is wokring on HW/Software solutions as we speak.
** I know that ATI/AMD Team working on some new stuff (DX12/VLK in mind)
I feel this is essentially AMDs answer to the Titan.
Not in gaming performance but as a prosumer card for small content creators it's likely to be very interesting.
As for gaming the $700+ market is pretty small and I don't expect huge adoption, as the people willing to shell out top dollar for the best performance probably already have a 1080Ti or 2080Ti. Depending on how prices develop in the market it's likely a viable option to the 2080 but as I mentioned before that's not a particularly large market segment to begin with.
Not having seen the performance I'd say it's... fine.
I'm honestly much more interested in Navi, not just because it's a new architecture but because I feel that pushing the midrange forward is ultimately what's going to matter the most for gaming.
TBF if Nvidia hadn't raised prices to stupid levels the Radeon VII wouldn't exist. It's an interesting entry and the 16GB of HBM2 and memory bandwidth makes it a pretty intriguing VR and entry level 4K card. I hope there's a 64CU version coming as that would be the icing on the cake. Though I can't help but feel a 72CU version is needed to get to 2080Ti levels of performance. Unfortunately with the MI60 as the biggest card they currently do that's likely to not happen.
Oh for sure, as I alluded to in one of the threads in the frontpage news section I don't believe AMD themselves had expected yields to be good enough to allow for a consumer variant of the card.
I'm certainly happier the card exists than not but unless real pricing and/or performance ends up notably different than expected it's not really pushing the bar for anything but content creation, hence my moderate level of enthusiasm.
I suppose it's fair to say that it suffers from the same problem as the other card announced at CES, the RTX 2060, in that the product itself is fine but ends up offering a level of performance at a price that we've already been able to buy for, literally, years now. Aside from, as noted, that content creation may well benefit from a notable cheaper Titan rival.
7970/7970GHz ~550€ (275 tW)*
290X/390X ~550€ (290 tW)
FuryX LC - 650€ (275 tW)
Fury Pro - 599€ (240 tW)
Vega 64 LC - 699€ (264 tW)
Vega 64 - 599€ (264 tW)
Vega 56 499€ (220 tW)
Vega VII - 699€ (264 tW)
And of course prices will be lower in time, and we have 3 Games Bundle.
ATI did not guage nothing IMO, same'o
Navi will be at 249-299€, then 199€ and 99€ (the new entry level will be Good enough to push Devs into some Good looking true DX12 games)
* BIOS settings: Default Votage, 0% POW, normal Gaming conditions.
Do note that UV will give Vega LiQuiD Output at ~220tW (no FRT, 1440p)
ROP's are not doubled after all, still 64. In latest news.
Resident Evil 2 Remake PC demo is available (Play for 30 min.)
So, Navi will be officially mid range Iike Polaris? Or it's an arch like gcn? What to except after Vega? Radeon VII was the maximum perf for 2019?
Vega VII, LC,64,56 and Navi10 then rest will follow.
Mid range middle of this year and a higher end model either later this year or early 2020 is the rumor.