Rumor: AMD allegedly to release seven NAVI GPUs but faces efficiency issues

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. Venix

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    Those are bad bad news if they are true.
     
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    Those naming convention smack of someone with an inferiority complex.
     
  4. Jedidude75

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    These seem pretty good tbh. If they are true that is...
     
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    Better this instead of Over-Hype :p
    Navi will be priced good & will have solid performance IMhO.

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    Don't believe in +25% Radeon VII hype ;)
    Resonable is to hope that will be ~Vega 56/64 at 150-175tW with price tag of max to 249€
    If so, it will be great success for ATI/AMD Team.
     
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  6. Mpampis

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    I wasn't aiming for a Navi 20 card, but I find it hard to believe that the heat and efficiency issues only affect the top tier cards.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Vega cards aren't cool or efficient either. Which raises the question: Is it worth buying a Navi card, or just wait for the next (non-GCN) architecture?
    I'm a little bit disappointed, but let's wait and see. If Navi 10 can deliver RTX 2070 performance at less than 200W for ~400€, I'll buy one.
     
  7. Venix

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    Agreed 101% on that one !

    honestly .... i was not expecting navi to ever release anything on vegaVII level i thought this market (meaning v.high end ) was now for the next thing after navi .
     
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  8. JonasBeckman

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    Wasn't the estimate somewhere around Vega 56 - 64 and VII still as the top performer until whatever larger GPU AMD unveils which could or could not be big Navi or possibly something else for next year.
    Efficiency and other improvements could still make a difference though, 285 on Tonga over the earlier architecture or how the 580 started closing in on the Fury GPU's though the 4 GB VRAM was also a bit of a limit for that.

    Will be interesting to hear more about these and especially see reviews and such, performance, power draw and that (ALL the power again AMD or maybe less voltage? Ha ha. Well it does help overclocks and undervolting I suppose.) and more. :D

    EDIT: Hmm well they could make a 3090 water-block variant too I suppose but we'll see.
    And even if they don't enthusiasts and third party kits will do it. Will be interesting to see how big of a difference that could make then.
     
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    This year is breaking or making for radeon group. To be honest after all these delays, bad rumors and lack of information i think they are hiding something.

    Well, i'll go RTX if they frack up, im tired of them trying to catch up.
     
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    I don't believe the performance figures at all. Even AMD's own roadmap claims that "next-gen" is when we'll see efficiency improvements. I bet the TDP numbers are right, but I don't think the best Navi part will be any faster than a Vega 64.
     
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    When some rumours started saying Navi is still GCN, I began lowering my expectations. AMD has already squeezed everything out of GCN, so if Navi indeed still belongs to that generation, it won't surprise anyone.
     
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    Why does AMD continue wasting time making cards that perform the same as the last gen? Just lower the prices of the current cards.

    What a waste of money.
     
  13. Venix

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    in the same argument fit the 2080 and everything bellow ^^
     
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    But I still like the pricing, if it is correct
     
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    At least it has some new features. Pricing is stupid though.
     

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    What is "bad bad news"? Just curious. Getting an RTX 2080 performance for $500? Or a Vega 56 performance for $200?
     
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    Only a 10% increase over the Radeon VII? Isn´t that kinda of low... I was expecting 20 0r 30% at least...
     
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    The RX580 performance 75W TDP part alone would be enough to absolutely shake up market pricing, which is ultimately all I am hoping for.
     
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    +10W TDP, 1-2% faster than a 2080 and -$300 price. If you say you wouldn't want a card like that, that's your problem.

    Says the one who bought a card for $1100-1200 that has +30% performance compared to its predecessor. LOL.
     
  20. Netherwind

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    So, they'll concentrate on releasing cheap cards in the low and mid-segment and let nVidia have the cards that perform the best? That's one strategy I guess.
     
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