RTX 4090 Owner's thread

Just got my RTX 4090 but selling it sense it is not the brand I want. Yes I might of got it for only $1013 new but would prefer a different brand if possible.

 

At this point I'm convinced that throwing more money at the screen brings more issues. The more stuff money adds to the table, the more variables that can and most likely will go wrong.

 

That's some insane coil whine, if it's this bad on a phone recording, I can only imagine how bad it actually is.

Since prices went down a bit, I was again considering getting a 4090, but as I know that even IF the coil whine gets fixed with later revisions, those said revisions will never, ever reach my shitty country before EOL. So this, together with the cables thing, on top of the ridiculous price (cards should be freaking perfect at this premium), put me off for good.

 

If it wasn't for the work I do I would've gladly skipped this series and stayed on the 3080 Ti. Purely work related this saves time twice as much due to performance.
But if you don't make money with your rig, skip this series. This card can't do anything the 3080 Ti couldn't in terms of games. There are ridiculous niche scenarios
where it makes the impossible possible, but if one was actually a person that cares about those specific scenarios, one would've already had the 4090 at launch.

 

Glad i waited. Patience is key.

 

Love the new specs. Hate that we won't see any real change since they probably won't do much with it until 2025.

 

Well, the Asus Strix LC was supposed to have the better VRMs already and the coil whine is still this bad.

Besides that coil whine, Asus its pump and fans were also pure junk. The cheapest of all the cheapest, priced as high tier premium.

Cannot trust any of those GPU companies these days.
I don't know what else to say.

 

Never had wrong experiences with msi cards. @ least on 3000 series and up.

 

Most Reddit comment ever. Brand hate is as petty as brand loyalty and we see it in many industries.

 

I don't read on Reddit, so I cannot say what kind of comments people make there.
However, I did not do any kind of hate speech if that's what you're trying to imply.

Also if you did read my previous post, then you would have understand the reason of me saying that.
MSI and Asus made false promises with those specific two cards that I got my hands on, because of the noise it emits. Thus, of course it it is hard to trust them at that point. Understandable, isn't it?

I had very good experiences with MSI in the past too, esspecially with their Sea Hawk Series. Loved the card back then.
Unfortunately my current 3090 Suprim X has coil whine too. It is bearable to some extent but it's still there. I was hoping to have a better experience with their Liquid X model, but unforuntately (see my previous post) that was a dead end for me too.
It could be a bad batch of course, but checking the web for similar siutations of other people, I see no real benefit to try buying it again in the hope to get a card with less coil whine.
I am ok with skipping current generation, maybe they'll do better with the next generation.

 

Various forums and groups are full of posts from people who dont like another opinion if it differs from their own.
People who think they own gaming, or own pricing, or own branding.
But specific to yourself, making a post about how awesome you are but then not being happy cos you are the wrong kind of awesome, yeah, thats very Reddit.

 

Except i've got historic valid reason for hating on gigabyte and msi (and evga)

 

But I certainly did not do that, did I? I just reported what I have found about reports regarding coil whining, which is a real problem, and then I shared my own experiences with the MSI Liquid X and Asus Strix LC.
So I don't understand why you're comparing this with that.

Are you drunk or something?

 

Pretty sure he's the type of guy that would call me out on hating the MSI brand too because i called the 3080 Ti and 4090 I had from them POS.
However, unlike many, I've had the cards - It's not pure speculation, same as you. If I had a Gigabyte or whatever, and it was a POS, I'd call it a POS.
I wouldn't give a rat's ass what the brand was. I'm not calling MSI a POS, but the card they made. I've a lot of other MSI and you name it brands that have
awesome return, just not these specific ones which were so insanely highly priced that it seemed like you were spending more for more trouble.

I'd suggest you just ignore him. No good comes out from arguing with people who's judgement is so clouded they're off right off the gates.

 

Can you advise the MSI and ASUS coil whine specification that the manufactures have failed to meet? I cannot find anything on coil whine standards.

 

Yes I can.

It is disconnected corporate speak and misleading advertisement they do.
The presentation and advertising of their cards is described as very silent performing devices. They don't specifically mention coil whine, but they talk about how quiet the device performs thanks to the fans, pumps and what not, describing it in a way where - as a customer - you may think that this device is silent - period.

Here is some example quote from the MSI diashow web presentation of the Liquid X:

Source: https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeForce-RTX-4090-SUPRIM-LIQUID-X-24G
"noise" not being specified, it could be anything. In this case related to the fans, but still open for anything else. No need to mention coil whine. The bottom line message is: this card has significantly less noise.

The Amazon.de Webshop Description from MSI (From the English Version quoted today as of writing this message):

They even use upper cases for the word "silent" to make you feel it.
Source: https://www.amazon.de/MSI-GeForce-SUPRIM-Liquid-Grafikkarte/dp/B09YD4FJ5R

Asus diashow web presentation of the Strix LC:

First talking big about the product, then, as if it wasn't enough, advertising the silence of the card in a level, where it even beats the whole air-cooler competition in terms of noise. The bottom line message: This card is so quiet, that no air-cooler can beat it at all. Coil whine should be out of the question, but (in reality) it is not.
Source: https://rog.asus.com/graphics-cards/graphics-cards/rog-strix/rog-strix-lc-rtx4090-o24g-gaming/


Of course they don't make it specifically for the coil whine, but as a whole advertisement they keep talking about silent operational built-in devices describing the whole design of the video card to be optimized and performing very silently in general.
When you read this, you will think that this GPU is silent. That's it.
But once you plug it in and start operating it, you'll realize that while fans and pump may be silent, as advertised, the whole design however is not, because of the coil whine that exceeds reason.
In fact there is actually a law that regulates advertisements in Germany. Normally they are not allowed to do such a misleading, but it will not make it to court because in Germany you have a 14 day return policy by law if you're not satisfied with the product. But that's another matter anyway.

Additionally, as I have mentioned earlier, der8auer made a Video about the Asus Matrix asking Asus about coil whine, and they told him that they made the changes on the VRMs to significantly reduce the coil whine
Here is the link to the video with the associated time stamp (06:50):


Well, when I had my Strix LC, I didn't see any improvement that's what I can say. I shared the sound recordings in my earlier post. Check it if you have not yet.

Okay, so why do I make a fuss about it?
It's simple: because there are people who say that they don't have coil whine and I wanted to know what's the difference and how this can be. Because as I mentioned before, the noise that coil whine makes is something that bothers me a lot, and I can only talk about me. However, it appears that I am not the only one that is bothered by this. So this problem is very serious in my opinion. If you think otherwise than that's fine. Some people don't even notice the coil whine or they were lucky enough to get a better performing card, that's good for them. I wish I could be this lucky too, but unfortunately I am not. And this hurts me considering the premium price charged, where you still have to rely on something like "luck" or the sort.

 

Well I actually saw a 4090 today with my own eye balls.
Definitely wtf with its size.
Yeah. 1500 and second hand.
Not for me.

 

I decided to return my RTX 4090 because I want to wait for something better from nvidia in design.

Still had up to 60 days.

Will eat the shipping cost which is fine. Hope it proves to be the right decision.

Went back to my GTX 1080 ti

 

Hating a company is pointless, it's like hating Africa because you got mugged in Mali.