RTX 30x Fan Issues - Not AB's Fault

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  1. Ashkaan

    Ashkaan New Member

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    Guys, I am having and I keep reading about fan issues with the RTX 30x Series. I have enough data (after a ton of testing) to demonstrate that this has nothing to do with AB. We need a new target and/or a new workaround.

    Issue:
    Fans are overly aggressive and noisy. Fans cannot be controlled to quell this using software.

    Data:
    Without any adjustments or fan software installed (AB, EVGA PX1, Zotac FS, etc), the GPU turns into a jet engine with some basic gameplay. I'm running the latest drivers (457.09) and my 3080 has 3x Fans.

    No matter which fan software I use, I get the following results:

    Fan 1 controls Fan 1 on the GPU. I seem to be able to manually take it from 30%-100% with no problems.

    Fan 2 controls Fan 2, but as soon as I set it to ANY number, it runs at 100% and stays there. I cannot bring it down until I shut down and power up again.

    Fan 3 is not controllable at all (and only fires up on its own when temps are high).

    Conclusion:
    Since EVGA PX1, Zotac FS, and AB all exhibit this same behavior, it's clearly got nothing to do with AB. The tension that I'm seeing between users and Unwinder is unnecessary and unwarranted. This is highly likely either an Nvidia driver issue OR a BIOS issue with my particular model (ZT-A30800J-10P).

    Call for Help:
    If anyone has additional useful and verifiable data or has figured out any workarounds (I'm open to flashing over here!), please post so we can get to the bottom of this unfortunate situation and get back to (what we all have in common here) GAMING!
     
  2. rflair

    rflair Don Commisso Staff Member

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    It is probably at the BIOS level, but have you tried just installing the driving using control panel, have disk and pointing to the driver and not installing any of the Nvidia bloatware.

    Again I think this is at the BIOS level though.
     
  3. Astyanax

    Astyanax Ancient Guru

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    Known issue in 457.09.
     
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    Ashkaan New Member

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    Ahhh.. poop. Ok, thank you!
     

  5. sertopico

    sertopico Maha Guru

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    So, basically we need to wait for the next driver release that will hopefully solve this?
     
  6. Astyanax

    Astyanax Ancient Guru

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    a fix for it is likely the only thing stopping a hotfix for the other issues fixed since the new GRD.
     
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  7. sertopico

    sertopico Maha Guru

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    Gotcha. Well, I cannot complain about the automatic fan management when switching to OC mode, but I was indeed getting a couple of degrees less with a custom profile. Thing is, one of the three fans doesn't show up in the readings and therefore I don't know if it's working properly at the speed I set. I will just wait and see what happens next.
     
  8. Netherwind

    Netherwind Ancient Guru

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    Custom fan curve would be a workaround I guess. I upgraded to 457.09 but don't recall having fan issues though I'll investigate this evening.
     
  9. SplitSoul

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    I'm having this issue with my brand new Gigabyte Eagle OC 3070 8GB on 460.89. Has it just not been fixed yet or has the bug been reintroduced? Is there no workaround? I've read terrible stuff about their RMA process and would like to avoid it if at all possible. I've tried AUROS Engine, Afterburner and Precision X1 to no avail. The third fan will not cease spinning until I shut down.
     
  10. SplitSoul

    SplitSoul New Member

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    I tried the 460.97 hotfix driver, but it gave me worse frames in Cyberpunk than 460.89, so I rolled back doing a clean install, and the problematic fan spun down during the install.
     

  11. bobekk

    bobekk Master Guru

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    to be precise if u enable user fan control in MSI u can adjust it from range 30%-100%
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    if u disable user define fan control it goes 0% but u cannot use any fan curve thats how it's working on my msi 3070 ventus 3X OC
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    it's not driver issue but NVIDIA default settings for 30XX series more info @ AB subforum but plzz don't ask Unwinder about User fan control/custom fan curve
    https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/msi-afterburner-4-6-3-beta-4-is-it-real.435810/
     
  12. Astyanax

    Astyanax Ancient Guru

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    The only applications that manage to retain Fan stop are using direct programming of the Fan i2c, which is

    A) Dangerous
    B) Not supported by Nvidia.

    NVAPI fan control does not permit fan stop, Can nvidia reimplement NVAPI to permit this?, sure, but then they are also opening a can of worms which could allow noobs to overheat the card and bitch at them when the device black screens to protect itseslf.
     
  13. bobekk

    bobekk Master Guru

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    Besides if u have 3X Fan card no matter what soft u will use u cannot control 3rd FAN (marked red in pic) at all (even if two first fans are @ 0%RPM) but tbh i dont care AB have so much to offer in other areas
    [​IMG]
     
  14. Cave Waverider

    Cave Waverider Maha Guru

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    I can control my ASUS RTX 3090 ROG Strix' fans with MSI Afterburner 4.6.3 Beta 4 via custom fan curve just fine (albeit not separately, but I don't need to anyway - I can also set fan speed to 0% via curve and they will all stop). On the 3090 Strix, the outer two fans are controlled together and the center one is controlled separately.
     

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