Discussion in 'Videocards - NVIDIA GeForce' started by pharma, Oct 15, 2018.
Nevermind I worked it out to being meant, "sorting", rather than throwing into the trash bin
Thing is that there are dud cards at every launch, it's happened to me before.
The 20xx launch is under intense scrutiny so now anybody who gets a bum card is included in the conspiracy that every card is a potential lemon, a fire further stoked by certain youtubers.
I think there is an issue with the FE edition cards, I have no idea how serious it is because I have no numbers but for non FE cards, there is evidence that the failure rate is being blown out of all proportion (the Derbauer video for example).
Sorry to hear about your card, I hope it gets sorted out
Depends, bad ones may end up in the bin!
I have an MSI Gaming Z and what I've noticed is the following:
+75 on afterburner = 2070MHz
+100 on afterburner = 2070MHz
But my bro who bought the same card gets
+100 on afterburner = 2130MHz
But what he told me is the most he can do is +500 on the memory while I can do +800 on mine.
Can you share the actual GPU scores instead of the system-info read maximum frequencies. A competitive 2070 can exceed 10k GPU in Timespy.
That's how GPU Boost works. But just because +100 works for you doesn't mean it will for him. In fact, I highly doubt that 2130 is stable.
+800 is more rare on the GPU memory, but it's far from exceptional. There is a very wide spread in quality in GDDR6 it seems, +500 on the low end is about right, but I've also seen 2070's take there VRAM all the way past +950.
Oh I know how GPU Boost works, I'm just saying these are the current results we're getting with the same card. Even though they're binned (A) theres also a lottery on the higher binned models.
For benchmarking purposes surprisingly I've hit +950. So even though we both have Gaming Z that has A chips, there will be a lottery within those binned as well as ram.
Just a quick benchmark
i have msi armor and i get 195+ on core and 750+ on memory
Useless info...write stable frequencies not offset...It means nothing...
My Vram is stable till 16200 benchable w/o losing performance and 24/7 16000 or +1000 in MSI AB with stock BIOS and +800 with the Zotac one as it has higher stock clocks
Ah nevermind what I said, my bro got his to 2130MHz/2000MHz. Its like one day it woke up and suddenly can do higher clocks lol
Could he run TimeSpy for a comparison. 26k GPU Firestrike score is in 1080 range...Turing is not good in Firestrike it seems.
Card has a lot of headroom, didn't touch voltage and have a low power limit (210W). Would not be surprised if it could be pushed to over 10000 for people with a reasonable CPU like a 9900k, think I could hit 10000 if I did some work on it but I don't see a real point for a benchmark.
Boosts to 2050-2100. Cannot do 2000 mem (I can do 1975). Only +100 on the Core without touching voltages. Temps are super low with the fan on 100%.
Keep in mind you also have a a higher power limit. I have a few questions about the Gaming Z I've been looking for a response to (Because I have the Duke, and want to try and flash its bios)
- Does the Gaming Z have two fan controllers (e.g. two show up in GPUZ).
- What voltage is the card running at under load / idle?
- What is your core clock?
General notes I've discovered so far:
- VRAM generally caps out at 2000
- Core generally caps out around 1550 for base clock (So boost to like 2150(?))
Also looking at some BIOS dumps, I am assuming
TU106-400-A1 - 10DE 1F02
TU106-400A-A1 - 10DE 1F07
Few days ago I bought RTX MSI 2070 Armor 8G version and I would like to do some overclocking on it, but I do not know about overclocking tbh. So I would like to ask you, if you can tell me on what numbers I should put in Afterburner to get maximum of my card and have it still stable.
Or should I use Afterburner 4.6.0 for automatic overclock ?
Maybe it's not possible to just say: put there +50Hz for core and +150Hz for memory. That's why I am asking you
Sorry but what headroom?
2050-2100 is as good as it gets.
Most of the Cards are massively power limited, looking at the data all by the "Flagships" have a 200-220W power limit, even the non-flagship 400A cards.
Only company that didn't seem to follow this was Gigabyte as their Windforce OC has a higher power limit despite not being their top tier card.
is it worth overclocking memory as the 2070 it not really memory bottleneck anyway???
anyone tried underclocking memory to see if it get slower?
I have a weekend of RTX2070 nightmares behind me but with a happy ending (for the time being).
On friday I received my Palit RTX 2070 Dual. I installed it and started benchmarking Battlefield 1 with my personal benchmark sequence (basically on Amiens map, respawn and run from east base to flag A in a straight line). My old 1070 was running fps in the 60s and 70s area, the Palit only gained 10-15% mainly in the 70s and 80s. Pricey disappointment but it went even worse. During the round I experienced some freezes and stuttering on the Palit which rendered BF1 unplayable. I reinstalled the drivers but it didn't make a difference. Then I discovered that the Palit was a cheap undervolted model with only a 8pin power supply whereas the regular RTX2070 have 6pin+8pin power supply. I was so angry. I took out the Palit and filed a request for return, packed everything ready to mail the card back on Saturday morning (what I did). Also during the night from friday to saturday I decided to order a Asus Strix RTX2070 Gaming OC from a local shop for pickup on saturday morning.
On Saturday I picked up the Asus and installed it. Thank god it was a full RTX2070 not a stripped one like the Palit. Ran the BF1 benchmark again and surprise - fps went up into the 90s und 100s (Palit in the 70s and 80s). No freezes, no stuttering - just beautiful.
@Rathbone So they are now doing to desktop cards what they did with notebooks, ala MAX-Q units with different wattage caps. (anywhere between 80-100w) And no difference in labeling. :facepalm:
Darn, that's bad. Actually sounds like a downright broken card but not sure, glad it worked out in the end!
I considered the Palit Dual as alternative to MSI Armor. Guess I made the right choice!