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RTSS blocked after latest Win 10 update 7/3/19

Discussion in 'Rivatuner Statistics Server (RTSS) Forum' started by lowdog, Mar 7, 2019.

  1. lowdog

    lowdog Active Member

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    [​IMG] RTSS is being blocked by UAC after yesterdays Win 10 update.


    How the hell do you post images in this forum???

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  2. Tenerezza

    Tenerezza New Member

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    As i posted in another thread the root certificate that was used to sign the setup/program was revoked.

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    Installing a older version like 7.2.0 or older will solve it for now until a new build is released.
     
  3. Unwinder

    Unwinder Moderator Staff Member

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    There won't be new build, I have no other certificate and this one still works and valid.
     
  4. lowdog

    lowdog Active Member

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    Can confirm RTSS v 7.20 works where as 7.21 is blocked by UAC after latest Win 10 update.
     

  5. chinobino

    chinobino Maha Guru

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    Can someone post the Windows update related KB? I'd like to block it or remove it.

    [Edit] Is it KB4492978? It just installed.
     
  6. pzjack1130

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    I have the same issue. Where can I find the v7.2.0 download?
     
  7. Unwinder

    Unwinder Moderator Staff Member

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    Enough of that. Next RTSS won’t be digitally signed at all. So those who seem to be mad and stupid just like me and see the signature working on our systems will lose it too. No more BatleEye and EAC support for anyone. Thanks to vocal minority.
     
  8. JonasBeckman

    JonasBeckman Ancient Guru

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    KB4492978 should be the insider update for 17763.349 with the next monthly cumulative update for Windows 10 coming out next week, guess it matters little with this new version of MSI Afterburner and Rivatuner Statistics Server having just been released and it'll probably be a while before a new version but until this can be tested and confirmed on the newest non-insider update it seems a bit early to worry for whatever Microsoft is doing.
    (Second Tuesday every month and all that for OS updates.)

    EDIT: In effect in five days this should all be clear.
    But the 19H1 and 20H1 also on insider builds seem to have the same issue I wonder if Microsoft isn't revoking these certificates a bit early.
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2019
  9. Unwinder

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  10. dr_rus

    dr_rus Ancient Guru

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    AB RTSS OSD toggle hotkey doesn't work with AB 4.60 / RTSS 7.2.1 release - but does work with ^^^ this version of RTSS. I don't get any UAC prompts though, only the hotkey doesn't work. 17763.348 non-insider release channel here.
     

  11. Unwinder

    Unwinder Moderator Staff Member

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    That's exactly the same binary, it cannot function differently.
     
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    dr_rus Ancient Guru

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    Yeah, I figured out the reason, has nothing to do with this thread. For some reason AB/RTSS hotkeys stop working if you later CPU affinity via Task Manager for the currently running game.
     
  13. Unwinder

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    Hotkeys are polled in separate DirectInput thread, probably doing so you leave it no time for idle processing.
     
  14. dr_rus

    dr_rus Ancient Guru

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    I think it's somehow related to invoking Task Manager through Ctrl-Alt-Del as both games I'm seeing this in (Far Cry Primal Uplay version and NFS Hot Pursuit 2010 Origin version) don't allow you to Alt-Tab or Win-D. The hotkeys stop working after you restore the game while the OSD still works fine - and it looks like hotkeys are beginning to work again after some timeout? Anyway, not a big issue and isn't related to the thread, sorry for OT.
     
  15. lowdog

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    @Unwinder

    RTSS version 7.2.1 you linked works fine now, no error on my system. Thank you Sir. All systems are different I suppose. I know you work extremely hard on Afterburner and RTSS :) and I know soooooo many people are extremely appreciative of you ongoing efforts in this field (I am one of them and it's the best software around for what it does)……………….I sympathise with the headaches you must go through from time to time with people such as myself being frustrated when we have issues with things not working...….but more often than not it's just that we are simple human beings and get despondent when one of our favourite pieces of software has a glitch, any comments of "there is a problem" are not directed at you personally but more a response of our concern that we can't use the program as it's meant to be used.

    Thanks again for all your ongoing efforts to make Afterburner and RTSS what they are today....GREAT!

    Without your efforts NONE of this would be here and that says A LOT!

    Cheers.
     
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  16. Unwinder

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    We decided to rename it to 7.2.2 to make it visible to update servers.
     
  17. Astyanax

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    StarCom stopped issuing new certificates since 1st Jan 2018, so their last issued certificate had to stop working two years later, in 2020. Mine had to be alive till September 2019.
    Instead of that, root StarCom CA certificates are getting randomly revoked right now on some selected systems, almost one year before it was actually supposed to reach EOL. No ideas what is going on and why.
     
  19. Unwinder

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    Pricing is important but not the primary annoyance. I’ve already paid for new 1-year Comodo certificate for RTSS, but the process of issuing it is not fast and will take a few days (probably weeks). The main problem is that due to restricted safety requirements from Microsoft side many major certificate authorities (e.g.GlobalSign) simply stopped issuing new certificates to individuals now. So you either need to register yourself as an organization or choose just one of remaining CAs still issuing it to individuals. So your CA choice is really limited, and the process of validating you as individual takes enough of paper work and time. For StarCom it took me just 24 hours in the past.
     
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    It's even worse if you want an EV cert, some vendors want you to use a usb token provided by them, so even once they've confirmed your ID, you have to wait for that to arrive in the post: I've only publicly heard of DigiCert doing this, but I'm sure there are others that do it too.

    The actions of Symantec's CA and a few Cert+Sharks have as usual, ruined it for everyone.
     

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