Rocket Lake at 5.5 GHz could be Intels answer against the Ryzen 9 5950X

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  1. suty455

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    The new cooler now makes sense, so you will have a CPU at 250w (or more) with a cooler that needs at least as much to keep it cool, I call Intel clutching at straws to ensure they stay at the top of some irrelevant 2-15 FPS, wrap all that in a 10-7nm node then lets see how good the Engineering is
     
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    Official leak test of engineering sample!
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    Clock rates are not the answer to anything, did intel lay off the guys responsible for merom?
     

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    Intel is basically brute forcing at this point.
     
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    Well im sticking to air cooling so i doubt the temps and power consumption will be good, so to me this aint any answer to what amd have atm
     
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    If Intel thinks high clocks are the key to performance , they are already too far gone ....
     
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    I was just thinking the same haha.
     
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    More Intel FUD.
     
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    Higher clocks is one of the available paths to increase performance and there´s nothing wrong with that as long as power efficiency is maintained and that´s the problem.

    The optimal clocks for Intel´s 14nm process, regarding performance and efficiency, seems to be around 4.5Ghz. So reaching 5.5Ghz is going to require lots of pwer and efficiency is probably going to be abysmal...

    And let´s not forget that AMD and Nvidia are also pushing clocks higher and higher to improve performance.
     
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    But this is not "progress" , it's stagnation at best. They need new arch and process , we need competition because AMD is starting to become new intel ( or already is looking at prices ).
     
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    Yep, not difficult on the 10900k with a good unit and cooling.

    Are u purchasing the peltier from EK/Intel???
     
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    So is AMD the gaming king now? :D (just a joke after some users on Techpowerup tried to deny this after their only "not AMD winning" review)

    IMO, it's such a pathetic and panic move from Intel as in the time of the Ryzen 3000 series, Rocket Lake was 7% faster against their AMD counterparts when using a top-tier GPU on FHD, which is a near non-existing scenario, as users buying a 2080Ti, now 3080, 3090, 6800XT, 6900XT are NOT using them on FHD. That 7% reduces to around 3% on 1440p which is impossible to feel during gaming, you can only see it in the charts. That's the same now with Zen 3 against CL CPUs and if Intel wants to do it again with RL, that will be the same too. In return, they will lose 2 cores in the top-tier desktop segment while getting more power consumption and getting hotter. A really bad way of marketing your product.
     
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    Seeing how they developed that peltier element based cooling system, efficiency is not a current priority for Intel. They fired Ms Efficiency. She will only be rehired once Intel has a new architecture ready.
     

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    Funny that since the Ryzen 5xxx series landed there has been alot of "leaks" from Intel.
     
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    I will probably buy it, cause it will be the fastest chip for gaming, regardless of how it achieves it... haters gonna hate.
     
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    Terrible math... 10% higher clock speed to catch up means Intel is lagging in terms of IPC @ ~ 10%.

    Will AMD counter with XT variants?!
     
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    Was wondering what the answer would be to the beating they been taking.
    it already uses loads of power they cant get around that.
     

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