Rocket Lake at 5.5 GHz could be Intels answer against the Ryzen 9 5950X

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    So what's the release date?
     
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    5.5 GHz ? Insane clock. is it even possible?
     
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    If it comes around time AMD releases Zen3+/Zen4...
    @SeriousSkeletor : Chips will live long enough for warranty to expire.
     
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    I guess they will be including a Cryo cooler with the CPU to get that speed out of the box without overclocking.
    or better, a cpu without a cooler and a recommenadion of buying a Cryo cooler for an extra $400 to achieve the advirtised boost clock.
     
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    I'm running a delidded 10900k @ 5.5ghz all core on watercooling, so I guess it's possible ;)

    The 10900k is not hotter than my 3900x overclocked. Direct die helps Alot.
     
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    Pentium 4 Deja-vu.
     
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    Yes... But if i remember Pentium 4 lost the war against AMD...
    Intel had to change everything to get the Core CPU line, with people astonished that 2.0 gh that have more power than 3,8 gh in this time , and take back the lead...

    Maybe they need to apply the same solution...
     
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    sure it's possible, if they do this just for 1-2 cores. Still the important question is for how long and how much power will this sip.
     
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    I remember switching from an Athlon 3800+ OCed to 2.75GHz to a Pentium 4 HT 3.8GHz, just for my games to become slower. Good times :D
     
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    It all makes sense now , Cryo coolers , 300 TDP , and soon 5.5 maybe 6ghz. That cycle again , ATHLON vs NETBUURST :D
     
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    dont run prime95 and you will be fine with tdp
     
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    At that speed what R20 single score do you get? Rocket Lake is supposed to be at least 10% more IPC ( the claim is double digit ) so that would indicate the speed of the rocket Lake in that test.
     
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    Intel WTF... Still 14nm I have seen 5.6 close to 600 on Cinebench 20.
     

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    rocket lake? boring. it runs hot, it runs loud, need to void warranty to delid, and melts if you run prime95, you need exotic cooling, bad IPC, and still not an answer for productivity. need 5.6ghz just to match zen 3 4.9ghz boost? zen 3 respects TDP very rigidly and will actually have sane temperatures in prime95. dont need to delid. boost behavior is more developed, and you can actually use mediocre cooling and it will still behave very well, even with the full 16 core part (i would know, i have 5950x and a really bad chinese cooler. it didnt overheat unless i turned on PBO which is warranty voiding overclocking).

    sure, rocket lake MIGHT be better at pure gaming, but at what cost? and i'm not talking about price tag. zen 4 releasing in early 2022 and intel wont have an answer to that since they only have a die shrink planned
     
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    Considering it has not been released yet you seem to own a Tardis to be able to state all that about it accurately.....
     
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    Depending on how much you overclocked the 3900x ...
    How hot is this the 10900k on 5.5? And what kind of watercooling?
    You also have got a great die, that does not make the 10900k a chip that run cool.
     
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    I am sure it is DIRECT-DIE vs IHS situation where AMD's chiplet positioning makes for poor match to most cooling solutions.
    And then it is convex vs concave issue with AMD using opposite to intel and most of heatsinks being made for intel.
    Which results in poor contact outside of center of IHS. Cooling contact area simply needs sandpaper work.
    Or one can loosen pressure on other side than chiplets are, so higher contact area moves towards chiplets.

    I am still not happy with contact area of my cooling, but that's because I do not want to lap IHS.
     

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