Rip DirectX 10 to XP/2000... is it possible?

Hey people!

We all know that Windows Vista will be required to get support for Micro$oft's new DirectX 10, however since Vista and it's DX10 are really only software programs made up of 0's and 1's then surely some very clever programmers or hackers could 'rip' the DirectX 10 out of Vista and make it run on Windows XP (or even Windows 2000 for that matter).

Even if DirectX 10 made internal calls to the OS kernel to verify it was indeed running on Vista I'm sure the hacking community could 'fool' DirectX 10 and make it work on XP/2000.

Now I'm not asking this in hope thats it's possible, because I plan on getting 64bit Vista once it is realsed, but it does make me wonder...

So, is it possible, or are we all doomed to make Bill an even richer man?

Regards,

Greggy

 

WinXP's WDM (driver model) won't be capable of running DX10.

 

I don't think this will work...you maybe able to rip DX components out of Vista and place them in XP, but the whole structure of Vista is differant. Drivers for Vista work in a completely differant manner, and it's these that interact with DirectX, for devices to function properly.

 

If you really wanna know more detail on what DX10 has to offer, check these out... very interesting indeed:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1982032,00.asp

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1985149,00.asp

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1986909,00.asp

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1989495,00.asp

Well worth reading if u get the chance....

 

If you care to wait... The WINE team is going to add DX10 code to Linux, and they say it would be relatively easy to adapt it to Windows XP too. But even though it'll take a (long) while before that'll happen, in the end it will.

 

WGF 2.0 is a entirely new API that theoretically could be ported with EXTREME difficulty to Windows XP, so why bother? It would likely be highly unstable at best, at worst it will not work and screw up your windows API royally.

 

yeah.... MS'll probably keep DX10 on Vista until they make enough money on Vista, and say "what the hell"..... so yeah, that'll take quite some time for greedy MS to decide.

 

Their not greedy, there is no point in transfering over a entirely new API to a old OS which is likely to cause a incredible number of stability problems on a currently very stable OS, then you will probably blast them for porting over the WGF 2.0 API "that is crap".

 

So they have the new update, DX9L, so DX10 can play DX9 games?
Are they updating XP's DX9 at all?
They should do, it's been so long.

Sort of on the same subject, do you think that there will be a large update package for XP, SP3? There is IE7, Media Player 11, windows imagining update, .net 3, and some other stuff for vista that are going to be put into XP, for business's and such. That's probably going to be a big update.

 

Microsoft wouldn't be much of a company if they just kept updating one OS.
Of course they've made millions out of XP but now it's time to move on. I'm looking forward to Vista and DX10. And I don't mind having to pay for a new OS, come on, we've all pretty much had our money's worth out of XP. Over the years it's allowed me to do and enjoy heaps of stuff, including playing some amazing games.

 

From what I heard, Windows XP SP3 will come out a few months or shortly after Windows Vista is launched to consumers (conflicting reports when it is being released).

Also I believe Windows XP is getting DX9-L as is Windows Vista. This will make Microsofts "XNA" initiative to make cross compatible games between Windows XP, Windows Vista and Xbox360 a reality.

 

I wish it gets hacked... and so does windows... I'm sure it will... microsoft bastards...

 

That's a very constructive post, well done.

 

I concur Microsoft charges way too damn much for their stuff.

 

dx9 gets updated every month...

 

If you think £150 is way too much for an OS that gives years of use, is constantly updated and has a myriad of utilities then fair enough, that's your opinion. If you compare it to three or four XBox 360 games then I think your view would differ, or maybe not, but can you honestly say WinXP is overpriced? If so, how much should it be?

 

@ Lord of Doom -

I am sure then you will be more than happy to go with the alternatives from Unix (Mac OSX) and Linux (Sosa, Red Hat, etc.) if you think that Windows is unfairly priced, no one is stopping you.

 

lord fo doom
if you were MS how much would sell it for
O by the way you will have to paid all the people that work
on it out of your own pocket money

 

MS wouldn't dare to leave XP behind like that. There will be DX10 eventually. Not everyone wants to upgrade to a new OS, let alone a new rig. MS is using this strategy for years now. They also denied the development of the Xbox (360) in the past and check your local gamestore now.

 

M8, i dont think u understand, the Vista display driver model is completely different to XP, its not possible to port it over to XP, not with all the features and abilities entact. That is why they are not doing it. I very much doubt we will ever see DX10 on Vista, and if we ever did, i doubt it will offer the full range of benifits it does on Vista.