Reviews: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 (MSI Armor & ASUS Turbo)

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  1. ScreamerRSA

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    Meh people are being charged xx80 prices for what should be the "2060". I don't get it, who is this card for? Everyone willing to spend xx80 money on a card will have bought a 1080 2 years ago?? I guess this is what you get with no competition :/

    Ngreedia, the way YOU are meant to played :(
     
  2. Fender178

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    I wouldn't mind getting a 2070 but it's too much and I just spent $430+ on an emulation rig and I am not taxing my 1070 in any way. If were to get a 2070 similar to my 1070 which an EVGA 1070 FTW edition I would have to shell out over $600 bucks or so which would be $150 more than what I paid for my 1070.
     
  3. HansR

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    Prices here for the 2070 start from 590€ and go up to 790€.
    A new 1080 costs 534€ (Palit GameRock) and a brand new 1070Ti about 470€.

    I have found a local seller who is willing to sell a 1070Ti (MSI Gaming) for a 300€, but the card was used for mining for 9 month (downclocked). Warranty still has 4 month left.
    What are the chances for this mining card to last till the next gen cards?
     
  4. MonstroMart

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    Underwhelming results imo considering the price. The average price in Canada is around 750$ and the cheapest one i could find online is 650$ (currently sold out). At those price, today, i would expect something giving much better results than a Vega 64 or a 1080. Those are the price a 1080 was sold last year. I bought a 1070 last year and i really regret it. Should have bought a 1080 as it was only around 100$ more expensive and i had the money.
     

  5. mojoba

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    The GTX1070 doesn't beat the GTX980Ti.
     
  6. sverek

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    Do you say it to feel better about you owning GTX980ti or there some hard facts? If there facts, please provide GTX980ti stock vs GTX1070 stock performance compare.
    Overclocked GTX980ti might have stronger performance than stock GTX1070, however it's not a valid compare.
     
  7. Fox2232

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    I think that people really try to disprove facts in bad way. It is not about "beating". Those cards sit very close to each other. That's the point. Idea itself to cal 2% lead a "beating" is kind of insane. They are about equal in user experience.
    And so, lets restate it:
    GTX 1070 ~= GTX 980Ti
    RTX 2070 << GTX 1080Ti (Yes it is shame, because RTX 2070 has transistors to do it.)
     
  8. sverek

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    Having 5-10 fps advantages in games (1080p), having higher score 1000+ in 3DMark 11 and higher score FireStrike, means GTX1070 does perform better than GTX980ti across the board.
    So, GTX1070 beats GTX980ti.
    I mean GTX1070 literally wipes the floor with GTX980ti :D

    In short, GTX1070 > GTX980ti. I know, hard to swallow, but it is how it is.

    https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1070_review,27.html
     
  9. Fox2232

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    That's 6,9%. People do not call you midget if they are 6,9% taller than you. in terms of graphics that's barely difference. Just take carrot I threw you. Arguing around border of your argumement instead if actual argument that jump in performance in this generation is worse than before. And improvement per $ is almost nowhere to be seen.
     
  10. sverek

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    GTX 1070 $379
    GTX 980ti $649

    GTX1070 literally wipes the floor with GTX980ti for the price. Floors are well polished now with 980ti. My job here it done.
     

  11. mojoba

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    The only job you've done is to bullshit this forum. As you can't really compare the price of a high end 2015 card to a midrange 2017 card. I was talking about gaming performance. The 980ti is 2% faster in games than a GTX1070 which I admit only just edges it. But I was pointing out that if the GTX 1070 doesn't beat the 980ti, it would be wrong to expect the RTX 2070 (3rd best model) to beat the best of the previous gen GTX 1080TI
    http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1070/3439vs3609.

    So if you have a 980ti don't listen to the above quote and pick up a cheap 1070 as it's a sideways upgrade. As the 980ti came out around three years ago they are now widely available 2nd hand for £250. Less than a new GTX 1070 but both great performers at 60hz 60fps 1080p/1440p. And if you only have a 1080p monitor a GTX 1070 at $379 is good value.

    I wouldn't recommend purchasing a new 980ti now (although a bargain used). There's now better options, for a similar amount of cash. At the time of purchase it was £550/$650 dollars which was good value considering the 20 series equivalent costs $1200 dollars.

    GPU's that offer a worthwhile upgrade performance wise for a similar price point would be the 1080ti (now that prices are falling) or the RTX 2070. There's no point in moaning about the prices of the RTX series. If you don't like the price don't buy.

    For 1440p the 2070 is more than adequate.The 980ti also handles 1080p and 1440p very well. It will give you ultra at 1080p or High at 1440p at 60fps. So you would only be looking to upgrade from a 980TI if you have a high refresh 1440p monitor or a 4k monitor/TV. A GTX 1080 doesn't really cut the mustard at 4k so for me it wasn't worth the upgrade and I didn't want to pay the inflated prices for a 1080ti. A 1080ti is now available 2nd hand for £400-£500 or a RTX 2070 from £459 for entry level 4k or high refresh 1440p.

    To guarantee better than 60fps 4k over the next couple of years your looking at a 2080 or ideally a 2080ti but for an average earner like myself with a kid to support, they are outside my price range. I love my gaming but also like value for money.

    The Nvidia model tradition goes something like this: RTX 2080TI>RTX 2080>GTX 1080TI>RTX 2070>GTX 1080>GTX 1070TI>GTX 980TI>GTX 1070>GTX 1060.......GTX 770>GTX 680.
     
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  12. sverek

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    ty :)
     

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