Reviews: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 (MSI Armor & ASUS Turbo)

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  1. Killian38

    Killian38 Master Guru

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    If I can find one at $499 U.S. or less I can see myself buying the 2070. That price is a lot more reasonable. Plus we have "features" to look forward to latter. Not holding my breath on those features tho. I hear the 2070 is mining beast too.
     
  2. Monchis

    Monchis Maha Guru

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    Awful card, Paying $600 for the rtx 2070 and be ok that it struggles with 1 year old xbox X´s 2160p-1800p resolution, is like buying a $500 7900gtx back in the day and be happy that it could barely handle 1 year old xbox 360´s 720p-540p resolution at 40fps, instead of 1600x1200 @58fps. (https://www.anandtech.com/show/1967/9). Or a $550 9800gt, and choking at 1 year old ps4´s 900p-1080p res, instead of getting 60fps @1440p (https://www.anandtech.com/show/8526/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-review/14).

    Ps.- Sorry I didn´t use guru benchs, but they seem to be flash.
     
  3. RzrTrek

    RzrTrek Ancient Guru

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  4. Voodoo2-SLI

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    WQHD Performance Index for Guru's GeForce RTX 2070 Launch Review

    166.5% ... GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FE
    139.0% ... GeForce RTX 2080 FE
    107.9% ... GeForce RTX 2070 Reference
    128.5% ... GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE
    100% ..... GeForce GTX 1080 FE
    92.8% .... GeForce GTX 1070 Ti FE
    81.7% .... GeForce GTX 1070 FE
    101.8% ... Radeon RX Vega 64 Reference
    89.0% .... Radeon RX Vega 56 Reference

    Index from 15 other launchreviews with an overall performance index of the GeForce RTX 2070 launch here:
    https://www.3dcenter.org/news/gefor...tresultate-zur-wqhd-performance-im-ueberblick
     
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  5. sverek

    sverek Ancient Guru

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    Was any GTX card sold at MSRP price on release?
     
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    sverek Ancient Guru

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  7. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    Well, Here cheapest RTX 2080Ti costs $1435 including tax. Most expensive edition one (on well priced shop) costs $1682 including tax.
    On other hand, we have Vega 64 cheaper than GTX 1080 which took a while to get there. Vega 64 is now bit better value. Except GTX 1080 is EoL and Vega 64 may be very soon too.
    Greed fueling more Greed did leave pretty high prices behind, and they did not go where they should have, yet.
     
  8. AlmondMan

    AlmondMan Master Guru

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    Issues? Why would I have issues with a price? I mean it's too expensive, obviously. But other than that, what do I care? It's not a card I'm going to buy, with a fantasy featureset and no real-world data or talk about whether or not it will ever work or be viable.
     
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    @Hilbert Hagedoorn

    I think there is an error in this review. On page 2 it says:

    "The ARMOR edition of the GeForce RTX 2070 powered by NVIDIA's more modest offering in Turing, the A revision TU106 graphics processor."

    On Page 5:

    "Photos show the TU106-400 GPU, this tagged as the A revision (the A meaning this is a binned/sorted overclocking ready GPU). "

    However the chip in this card is not the A-model found on OC models. TU106-400A-A1 is the full name of the chip and your is TU106-400-A1 as seen on PCB shots.

    MSI product page confirms this one is non-A-chip and the OC model is A-chip:

    https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-RTX-2070-ARMOR-8G/Specification
    https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-RTX-2070-ARMOR-8G-OC/Specification
     
  10. Fox2232

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    Canadian or US? My numbers are in USD. If your's same, then it sux extra much.
     

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    any chance of getting download link for infiltrator demo with dlss?
     
  12. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    So, it is ~ $1463 USD which is tiny bit more expensive than here. On other hand, average salary here is $750 USD. So, purchasing power here is likely worse.
     
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    Probably a better buy than a GTX 1080, but that should be a given considering it's more than 2 years after the 1080's release. Still not too happy with these prices. Hopefully AMD can bring some extra momentum/competition again.
     
  14. Fox2232

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    @Hilbert Hagedoorn : Did/do you have opportunity to test 2070 with Blower cooling solution?
    Here, it is only one which actually has good price. It is even cheaper than 1080 and Vega 64.... but blower...
    All other 2070 with usual dual fan cooling solutions cost a lot more than 1080/Vega 64.

    If you have opportunity to test noise level under full load and in heated state (closed case). Or just manually setting fan duty cycle to 20/40/60/80/100%.
    I know that blower designs improved on noise, but all I have ever seen was competition with vacuum cleaners both in noise level and characteristics.
     
  15. BReal85

    BReal85 Master Guru

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    So:

    1. ~ GTX 1080 performance.
    2. 50-70$ more expensive.
    3. Nearly same power consumption.
    4. Considering the anomalies around RTX (BF1 developers said they will cut back RTX effects to offer better performance, we saw the SotTR demo with a 2080Ti hitting the low 30s in FHD), this cards performance with RTX on will be around pathetic.

    What a deal.
     

  16. HybOj

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    Thanks for a review. Guru 3d recommended badge became just a stamp you put after any review it seems - it totally lost any value after you placed it after every RTX card. I hope it was worth it.
     
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    thanks for the review

    the cheapest pre-order price i can see for us down under in australia for the rtx 2070 is AUD$939 (inno3d), i just picked up a brand new msi 1070ti titanium for AUD$535 to finally replace my aging 970 (seriously that 970 might be one of the best value card ever, still handles 1440p quite well if you're willing to drop down a few settings )

    i can't see anyone with a sane mind (at least here) willing to part money for the 2070 unless the price drops in a hurry
     
  18. kings

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    If AMD launches high-end cards costing significantly more than Nvidia counterparts, of course people dont buy it.

    When Vega arrived, the Vega 64 cost more ~150€ in EU than the GTX 1080.
     
  19. MK80

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    msi 534.9€ no bad..
    Asus GeForce® RTX 2070 ROG Strix AURA OC 8GB GD6 is

    728,90 € wtf
     
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    To everyone complaining about the AIB prices not getting near Nvidia's msrp it helps to think of them as a minimum price that Nvidia will allow you to sell at.
    From the AIB manufacturer perspective it makes no sense to develop a separate "cheap" sku that will get them very little profit when they can just slap on their proprietary cooler and pcb design, and give the product an over clock based on binning and maybe a shiny new paint job. Thus benefiting from economies of scale and pricing it comparably to the reference model where they will gain sales because their models are faster for the same money or thereabouts
     

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