Guru3D Content Reviews: AMD Radeon RX 6800 and 6800 XT

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  1. Kaarme

    Kaarme Ancient Guru

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    I'd say this is a pretty good comeback from AMD. As expected, AMD couldn't match Nvidia in ray tracing with their 1st gen when Nvidia is already at their 2nd gen. I wouldn't say Nvidia would need to be especially concerned, though. I imagine 3090 losing at 1080p isn't pleasant for Nvidia, but in the end nobody, probably, buys those cards for FullHD, so it'd be kind of academic annoyance. Plus as soon as RT is On, let alone blur filter, uh, DLSS, Nvidia has absolutely nothing to worry about. Considering this, the various rumours about Nvidia releasing in between models to fight AMD are somewhat comical in retrospect.

    I'm not personally going to get models this expensive, so I'll just need to keep waiting for the 6700 (XT) reviews.
     
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    Thank you for the amazing review^^
    I think the result with SAM enabled on AC Valhalla was awesome.

    Kinda curious if that was an MSI motherboard on the SAM test.
    Because I think MSI have released a beta bios with SAM support
    for almost all their X570, B550 and A520 motherboards at the moment.

    Like I mentioned before I think AMD have done amazing work with
    both CPUs and GPUs this year and I look forward to next generations
    with hopefully good competition even on price. :)
     
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    vestibule Master Guru

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    Good review HH. More comprehensive than others and you have not written off 1080p as some have. I think most of us are still on 1080 and more that happy with it.
    For sure if AC Valhalla is @ the top of your gaming list then the AMD 6 series are a no brainer.
     
  4. mackintosh

    mackintosh Master Guru

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    Ironically enough, these cards are priced at the same level top tier cards were 20 years ago. I pulled up my old order of an ASUS GF4 4600Ti and was surprised to find I bought it for the exact same amount cards are going for now (adjusted for inflation, of course).
     
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  5. Prince Valiant

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    "AMD massively is missing some sort of DLSS though, and that will always give GeForce RTX cards an edge."

    I was happy to see that non-feature missing.
     
  6. thesebastian

    thesebastian Member Guru

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    I'd like to upgrade to a RX6800 or RTX3070, probably the RX6800 as I haven't used AMD since the ATI 4870.

    But first I'm going to wait to have some Kraken G12 alternative. After 6 years of using a "silent" GPU. I'm not going to put a video card that in full load in summer, is noisier than any other case FAN.
    Currently my case fans are 140mm Noctua with Low Noise Adaptor, that cap at 1200 RPM. And at 1200 RPM I don't really like how noisy they become. But still they are more quiet than a GPU cooler fan.

    If anybody knows about a Kraken G10/G12 alternative (without jumping into an expensive custom loop), please let me know
     
  7. Agonist

    Agonist Ancient Guru

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    Holy hell.
    6800xt is my next gpu.

    Great work HH.
     
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  8. Nekrosleezer

    Nekrosleezer Member Guru

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    Imho very poor raytracing performance, and considering that every raytracing game also includes DLSS (missing comparative benchmark, but its ok if you dont want to show amd getting his ass kicked using this technology)
    But thanks amd, this will force nvidia to lower their prices, i want to get a 3080 or Ti next year.

    And thanks HH!
     
  9. DannyD

    DannyD Maha Guru

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    The card seems to fall off at higher resolutions a bit more than you'd expect any tech gurus care to enlighten us a bit?:)
    I love the card and the fact most RT games support AMDs tech is a nice win also, the first bench i looked at was rdr2 and it was right there on top surely we'll see a green price reduction (next year when they're available lol)
    Can't wait till 3900xt review waw!:D
     
  10. Netherwind

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    Just 50-70€ off would make it even more attractive.
     
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  11. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    No that was the ASUS X570 Crosshair VIII HERO combined with 5950X. But AMD supplied BIOSes for a handful of boards from Gigabyte, MSI, ASRock, and ASUS. So I expect public beta support real soon on the mobo side of things.
     
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  12. TheDeeGee

    TheDeeGee Ancient Guru

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    1) Open 2021_Ryzen_5000_Upgrade.txt.
    2) Backspace... MSI RTX 3070 Gaming X Trio.
    3) Typing... MSI RX6800 Gaming X Trio.
    4) File.. Save... Close.
    5) Nod and Smile.
     
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  13. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Any form of AA or clever supersampling is bound to either love or hate some end-users. DLSS was 'reasonable' at best when introduced. DLSS 2.0 is pretty darn good, but that's a subjective statement.

    It's not so much that I am a fan of DLSS, contrary, .. but it helps to bring Hybrid Raytracing into far more acceptable performance figures and thus makes games very playable at WQHD & Ultra HD. That I think is a miss from AMD. So I'm not saying it's a perfect answer, but machine learning supersampling can help out greatly where it's needed the most.
     
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    Great review and a great reference design on the card (I really, really like it). I'm glad AMD is back in the game in the GPU department as well and I'm looking forward to see how this will perform paired with the new 5000 series CPUs, and if the boost from the symbiosis is as good as it's said to be. Great year for hardware, not so much for actually getting your hands on the said hardware though. :rolleyes:
     
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    Do i get a price for being absolutely correct in my performance prediction the other day ? :p
     

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    As always very good review
    but if allowed where is the new amd testing system?
    We wanted more SAM numbers.
     
  17. moo100times

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    Very happy with both cards from AMD. I am impressed with the general gaming performance, the decent release drivers delivering top tier framerates, impressive thermals, but also Blender OpenCL nipping on the heels of CUDA cards is bloody impressive.
    I know what I am buying.
     
  18. cucaulay malkin

    cucaulay malkin Master Guru

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    you're not getting it.probably.
    was gonna order a 6800 but damn,2900pln.hell no
    6800xt is out of the question too,3250pln.My 3080 was 3280pln and all things considered it's a better card with an exception of a few games at lower resolutions showing the 6800xt in front by a fraction.Meanwhile MS FS 6800xt loses by 25% and RT performance is all over the place,can beat a 3070 and match a 2080.no dlss.

    my point - the prices should be 2900 for the XT and 2400 for the 6800.

    are you positive that you're getting the average not an odd example ? it's not that far from a 3080 on avg. but 3090 hell no.

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Kool64

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    perhaps they could shave off some memory from the 6800 pro make it 8gb and drop the price under $500. That would be the absolute sweet spot if they could.
     
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  20. kakiharaFRS

    kakiharaFRS Master Guru

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    it's not there yet in 4K but in 1080p woaw it's close or better than a 3080-3090 when AMD was alway "one step below" in earlier gens, incredible
    about Guru3D review setup :
    on one hand it's great for me who games on a 9900K I know exactly what the gpu alone will change (a lot coming from a 1080ti, double the fps/score in many titles or benchmarks)
    on the other hand I'm curious to see what the "perfect combo" Ryzen 5xxx + RD 6xxx does
    thanks for the great reviews as usual

    edit : techpowerup has a SAM test with a 6800XT and 5900X...don't bother it changes very little you gain 3-7fps, it doesn't magically make the cards better than the 3080 where it was worse
     
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