Review: Sabrent Rocket 4 PLUS 2TB NVMe SSD (breaching that 7 GB/sec)

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. Noisiv

    Noisiv Ancient Guru

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    sick performance!

    will need x8 to brake the pcie bandwidth limit
     
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    Those application benchmarks where pretty well everything has the same score say it all - there's just nothing that needs the performance today. Maybe next gen games with the direct to gpu interfaces might start to make use of it...
     
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    kapu Ancient Guru

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    Really an ultimate SSD . Sadly most of the performance goes to waste . Maybe in the future devs will find use for them.
     

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    I do hope prices drop down considerable in coming years, these NVMe really are not for normal use as Hilbert says. I look foward to the day that prices on these things becoming affoardable, for most people norma Sata SSD are still not Affordable, certian better then when I payed that 180$ for 128gb and. but 100 for 1TB for even Sata SSD is asking alot imo
     
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    cucaulay malkin Master Guru

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    it's not that
    random read performance on nvme ssd's hasn't really changed for years
     
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    How can you have this firmware RKT4P1.1 ? Mine is EIFM21.0 on the exact same disk and I can't find any update to it ??!
     
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    When I first moved to a SATA SSD from a HDD as my boot drive, what stood out the most was the ~15 secs or so time to boot Windows. Now, booting from an NVMe drive, running in PCIe3 mode it was ~12 secs, and finally my PCIe4 980 Pro boot drive gets me to the Win10 desktop in ~10 secs, cold boot or warm. My 7200 RPM HDDs often took anywhere from 90-120 seconds just to boot into the desktop, which needless to say made warm booting a chore I didn't gladly embrace. Don't even think about it these days.

    I found that probably the most common foible with NVMe SSDs is the temp factor! With my 960 EVO NVMe 250GB drive it would literally crash when simply doing an AV Defender scandisk of C:\, using the motherboard heatsink. I wasn't really thrilled about that and I think I said so in the G3D forums. But with the 980 Pro, using the flat heatsink, I don't have that problem, glad to say! Sort of...

    The 980 Pro uses the Microsoft NVMe Express driver--and there is no custom Samsung driver for it and there may never be--unlike the PCIe3 Samsung custom driver for the 960 EVO (it does not support the 980, unfortunately.) The rub is that the Samsung driver for the 960 EVO NVMe is about 20% faster than the Microsoft NVME driver, which is why, I suspect, my 960 would crash when run hard in a full C:\ AV scan under defender--I always use the Samsung custom driver for the 960 EVO. Based on that experience, I would guess the Microsoft NVMe driver for the 980 is likewise up to 20% slower than a custom Samsung driver for it might enable--but then up goes the temperature in cadence with the drive performance! Right now, that is why I suspect that Samsung is slow out of the gate with a custom driver for the 980 series. One may never be made, it looks like. So now under storage controllers I have a Microsoft NVMe driver (980) and a Samsung 3.3 NVMe driver (960 Evo) coexisting.

    Personally, I'll take the lower temps and the lack of throttling and crashing over winning the raw benchmarks any day! It's like everything else, what is noticeable in benchmark results is often not perceivable as a difference to the end user.
     
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    waltc3 Maha Guru

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    Fire off an email to SABRENT support about it...they may send it to you even if they are still testing it. Can't hurt to ask.
     
  10. kakiharaFRS

    kakiharaFRS Master Guru

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    around 2Gb/s write as usual, don't know where they get those 5-7000Mb/s but nowhere in the real life
    since pcie 3.0 already can reach 2Gb/s in write or close all those "ultimate" drives dont' offer much
     

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    For what the 4-16K blocks? What are you talking about...
     
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    A few weeks ago I wanted an new SSD and thought about a PCI-e 4.0 version.
    But none of them are any faster for normal use, a large waste of cash.
    So I bought another Sabrent Rocket 1TB for only £94, brilliant drive.
     
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    I have two Sabrent Rocket 4.0 NVMe SSDs in rig right now... a 1TB for Windows and a 2TB for use for things that I want fast read/write from - like certain large games and other slow loading applications that I wanted speeded up from 10GB SATA storage.

    I only bought the 2TB Rocket 4.0 from Amazon DE a few weeks ago for €320 - didn't know there was a newer one :(.

    But yes, the "real world" benchmarks tell the true story.... most apps are read using 4K block size with QD1 so none of this massive artificial read/write times with the likes of QD32 which never happens on a normal PC

    I was disappointed when I couldn't tell the difference between my old cheap PCI3.0 SATA SSD and these supposedly ultra-fast PCI4.0 SSDs on X570 motherboard.
     
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    Give him a boot. Looks like he never read a single Guru3d NVMe storage review.
     
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    Im torn between this and the Corsair MP600 pro 2tb to fill my empty slot and replace my MP600 2tb as boot or change my Gskill tridentZ 3600 c15(running @ c14) with some thing faster to go with my Ryzen 5800x and X570 Unify.
     

  16. kakiharaFRS

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    file copy which is the only place you will ever see high speeds, everything else unless you have a really niche use that it takes 1s or 1s to load something into memory is the same
    in file copy in almost every nvme reviews from guru3d you will see that the only speed you can "really" see is the file copy and it's always around 2Gb/s so....again where are those fabled 5-7Gb/s ? because no one cares if you get 5Gb/s loading a 500Mbs file or 500Mb/s instead, anyway that's my opinion but maybe it's because of my personal use ;)
    Power On Hours : 9309 hours
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    p.s.
    I'm not saying the drives are bad or whatever, I'm sure windows and or the motherboards are limiting all I was saying is that you shouldn't buy an nvme based on a marketing max speed you will never see but rather on the useful numbers like the randoms
     
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    I understand, thanks :cool:
     
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    Personally, I'm more interested in cheap 2TB storage than fast. Not that there's anything wrong with this product but it's relative niche, whereas there's a large market for low-cost high-capacity SSDs.
     
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    Yes Mr. Schmidt...for the man on the street like me it's all about a 'cheaper' or better said more price effective and producing products. I also do not care about boot, load or read times and the likes and 10-seconds here or there does not matter to me. But like the many thousands of 'underemployed non-enthusiast' out there with extremely shallow pockets $$$-reality always bites.

    I love the use of NVMe's it will make my PC interior feel much larger and I can better mash my utter cable-mess more into the case corners for better airflow. Especially with my untalented fingers and loathing the idea of any cable management. But I think that NVMe storage will soon result in all PC's running 100% SSD. Some Z590 mobos are already coming with 4-NVMe slots. So adios muchachos and all mechanical HDD's.

    Perhaps when I get a better and more meaningful paying 'full-time job' I can stretch for the big storage NVMe dreams as touted here. Of course for today and right now I am counting on my $1,400 stimulus check from President Biden to tie me over. It cannot come soon enough like the lucky few waiting for the RTX 3080ti to tie them over.
     
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