Review: Ryzen 7 1700 processor

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  1. eclap

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    You cherry picked one game from a website that can't decide whether the 6950x is 8 core or 10 core. Oh btw, the 1700 is not beating the expensive 8 core intels at same clocks, nor is it overclocking as high as those 8 core intels. Nor is it beating the exactly same priced 7700k in BF1. Run them all at stock, Intel wins. Overclock them all, intel wins even more and it doesn't matter if it's a £1000 intel or a £300 intel. These are all facts.

    Why are posting a chart that makes Ryzen look bad when you're trying to make it look good?
     
  2. zer0_c0ol

    zer0_c0ol Ancient Guru

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    I did not cherry picked anything eclap, this is the NEW BF1 DLC with ryzen optimization it could be a good sing of things to come , but as usual you spew nonsense and no subsistence whatsoever
     
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    The chart you posted does not match the content of your post. Clock for clock the Brodwell is faster in this chart. BTW the 6950X @3.0 is a typo that is supposed to be the 6900K @ 3.0. A 6800k would likely look the same as the 6900K in these test so it does not make it look that good. The fact that the 7700K or even the 6700K is in this chart shows favorable cherry picking.
     
  4. zer0_c0ol

    zer0_c0ol Ancient Guru

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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Then my GOD the 6950x is the biggest garbage known to man because a 1700 dollar CPU can not IN FACT BEAT KABY LAKE @ 5.0 ghz..

    well no SH.. eclap that a 8 core cpu does not beat a high clocked quad core
     

  5. zer0_c0ol

    zer0_c0ol Ancient Guru

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    Um eclap THE CHART IS NOT DONE YET.. Read the damn article and the 3.9 ghz 1700 beats the 6950x @ stock
     
  6. eclap

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    Not in most games it can't. Nor can Ryzen. Sorry what is it you don't understand?

    sorry, I don't speak good enough German and whilst I could use google translate, I only use that when I'm desperate to understand the topic. In this case, the chart speaks for itself. It just shows that Ryzen IPC is lower than Broadwell-E IPC, big woop. Nothing new, not sure why you posted that.

    Regarding the bold part - And? So now we're comparing overclocked cpus with stock cpus? Ok, here's one for you. A £330 i7 7700k at 5ghz smashes a £500 1800x (stock and oc) in this game. What are you even on about?
     
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  7. zer0_c0ol

    zer0_c0ol Ancient Guru

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    Um eclap you do understand that ryzen is a workstation / server 8 core cpu just like broadwell E for 499 bucks? You do understand that the ryzen 7 is 98 percent of broadwell E HEDT IPC just for the mainstream market for a mainstream price?

    p.s

    You do understand that only 1 out of 3 i7 7700k can react 5.0 ghz +, you do understand that some one them had to be de-lided to get to that speed because of the temps issue, you do understand that ryzen 7 is better @ gaming then kaby lake and even broadwell e are in production scenarios?

    clap clap eclap for you lack of understanding as usual
     
  8. zer0_c0ol

    zer0_c0ol Ancient Guru

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    It is in the chart eclap

    1.6950x @ 4.0 ghz
    2. 6900k 4.0 ghz
    3. 1700 @ 3,9
    4. 6950x @ 3.0 ghz
    5. 6900k

    FACEPALM TO THE MAX

    kABY LAKE @ 5.0 GHZ beats the 1700 bucks 6950x..
     
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    You can actually buy binned 7700K's from some vendors, with a guarantee of hitting 5ghz. Said vendors also usually offer the delid as part of the purchase, so you retain warranty through them. That changes things a bit, don't you agree?
     
  10. Loophole35

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    And the point of that is what exactly? I don't get what you're trying to prove here. Because it looks like you are reading a completely different chart than I am. We know in most workload situations R7 is faster that 6900k clock for clock. In gaming scenarios it loses to the intel's. While this chart shows a bit less of a valley the difference is still there.
     

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    You're telling me about how 7700k works, cute. I have one at 5ghz, no problem. And it runs 75C peak under load while stress testing. In games, around 55C-60C max. So yeah, I think you're preaching to the wrong person.

    Abot Ryzen being better than kaby at games, feel free to post proof, otherwise I'll just carry on laughing.

    Lastly, are you drunk?
     
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    I've been looking at the chart trying to figure out where my crappy i5 would go. Optimistically I thought it might hit 120fps, still Ryzen beats it easily so my PC is garbage and I can't possibly game on it anymore. Only fit for the dustbin, new PC please AMD....
     
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    Yes you can actually not guaranteed though
     
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    From the look of that last post foaming at the mouth most likely. zer0_C0ol you need to chill out bro. You are taking this way to seriously.
     
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    zer0_c0ol Ancient Guru

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    I am just sick and tired of people spewing nonsense and turning this forum to wccftech
     

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    Dude, you don't even know who you're replying to anymore. Hope you're ok, don't be wasting your life like this.

    EDIT: Yes, you can buy binned, guaranteed to hit 5ghz 7700k. Another fact for you.
     
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    they are not guaranteed to get 5.0 ghz HARD OCP proved that effectively and so did toms hardware, and gamer nexus proved that going to 5.0 ghz yields 2 FPS more in gta 5 so the gains are utter garbage.

    Lets talk about just how bad KL really is shall we, you spew the 5.0 ghz nonsense like gospel , my 2012 3930k can go 4.7 ghz on six cores and 5,0 ghz on four cores with HT off @ 1.5 V.. The irony of this being that both require water cooling to achieve this, stop glorifying garbage that is kaby lake which is nothing more than skylake with 0 IPC gain and 300 mhz out of the box
     
  18. Loophole35

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    But there is no nonsense here. You are getting twisted over facts. As of right now out of the box all things stock 7700k is the king of gaming and Ryzen is getting a weird bottle neck below 1440p. These are facts.

    Will Ryzen improve on the gaming side? We all hope it will, but to buy it based on hopes that it will eventually match a stock 7600k in all games is a bit hard for most to do.
     
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    Yet you post names of sites that post results of hardware but fail to post the link of the articles proving that you are correct in saying that there is no guarantee that the 7700k can reach 5Ghz. Finally you are talking to the wrong person.
     
  20. zer0_c0ol

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    Of course KL is king of gaming , that was always the case and it will remain like that for the time being. No production / server / workstation CPU can match the high clocked quad cores in gaming, people just assumed that ryzen will magically upset the KL order and when of course that did not happen they started to spew nonsense
     
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