Review: Red Dead Redemption 2: PC graphics benchmark analysis

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  1. Denial

    Denial Ancient Guru

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    Vega 56 performed similar to the 1080 in various low level API games at launch (Look at Doom/BF1 results). We've known AMD performs higher in those games for a while now as they can plug stalls. People actively talked about that when Vega launched so I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised by that (although there was argument about how fast dx12/vulkan would take off)

    I also don't think Maxwell has aged poorly? The last time I checked the 980Ti wasn't that far behind where it was when the 1080 launched but I haven't look recently.

    If the overall argument is "AMD cards have aged better" then I definitely agree and I think that should have been obvious once AMD won all the console contracts. That being said there is a question of how much that is worth to someone (typically based on how often they upgrade) and whether that will change with Turing - which is far more geared towards compute (where GCN should Accel so should Turing) and has a number of features like mesh shaders, variable rate shading, dxr etc that are all being implemented in various libraries.. so future games that take advantage of these features will only pull Turing ahead vs architectures without them.
     
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  2. MonstroMart

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    Usually not much to me as i upgrade every generation. But usually xx70 cards are not sold for 800-850$ in canada (taxes included). I mean i paid my 1070 604$ CAD taxes included 2 years ago. That's a hell of a price rise in 2 years if you ask me. I wish i could just skip this generation but the 1070 just is not good enough for my taste at 2k. I just ordered my new card it will arrive today. Anyway it's off topic now. RDR 2 looks very good btw so not really a surprise it runs poorly on many computers.
     
  3. fantaskarsef

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    Honestly, at this point I think, this game looks a bit like it's unoptimized.
     
  4. Robbo9999

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    Man, I can see you being a bit of a sad puppy once NVidia release their 3000 series next year then! Well, unless you're ok with upgrading next year as well as this year. I think it's best to upgrade on the crest of the wave if you like, pretty much right when a new architecture/shrink is released - that way you're enjoying the 'best' performance for longer, upgrading later in the cycle you're behind the curve and missing out on gaming value.
     

  5. MonstroMart

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    My next big upgrade will be when ray tracing will be more mature and i honestly don't think it will be happening with the next gen of cards. Even if the performance will be better with the 3xxx cards we will still see devs overdoing reflections just because they can and i hate it with a very strong passion. I hate when things are too shiny it's not realistic.

    My 5700 XT is just a temporary card. It's a Christmas gift from me to me ;) I wanted better performance at 2k without having to spend close to a grand with taxes and shipping. It really was the only option in Canada. In 2 years when ray tracing will start to be more mature and/or devs will start to develop for next gen consoles then i'll probably upgrade my 1800x cpu to a 3800x cpu on sale and maybe by then i'll be ready to spend a little bit more on a proper ray tracing card if the tech is more mature.

    For now i just did not feel like the 2070 was worth it in Canada since ray tracing performance on it are already kind of sub par and at the end of the day it really performs like a 550$ CAD card if you ignore ray tracing. I felt like anything i would buy now would be terribly outdated once ray tracing mature and next gen consoles are released so i went for the cheaper option.
     
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  6. Stormyandcold

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    Good buy tbh. It's hard to accept the huge price difference between 5700XT and GTX2080.
     
  7. southamptonfc

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    Wow, you need some serious HORSEpower to run this game!
     
  8. alanm

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    HUB analyzed every single setting and what it does to performance (with before and after examples). You can get up to 65% performance gain with minimal visual loss with smartly selected settings.

    https://i.**********/N0GsytKW/2019-11-13-21-05-17-Red-Dead-Redemption-2-Optimization-Part-2.jpg

    https://i.**********/fyNgLzLd/1-Red-Dead-Redemption-2-Optimization-Part-1-Let-s-Greatly-Impr.jpg

    https://i.**********/cHsn4PWH/2-Red-Dead-Redemption-2-Optimization-Part-2-Advanced-Settings.jpg

    Links:
    Part 1
    Part 2
     
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  9. Dragam1337

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    Only change i'd make to this is geometry level of detail... it's worth the 3% performance hit to use 5 out 5 imo.
     
  10. alanm

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    Yep, doesnt have to be strictly followed. You can further adjust the settings to suit your own individual tastes and still get a sizable perf boost.
     

  11. Dragam1337

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    Ye, it's mostly water and reflections that kills performance :)
     
  12. gerardfraser

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    Imagine turning down settings gets more FPS.New World Today with these crazy kids.
     
  13. alanm

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    Seems you missed the point. That carefully selected reduced settings need not compromise the visuals to the degree the perf gains may suggest.
     
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  14. fantaskarsef

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    https://www.guru3d.com/news_story/r...ms_with_pc_version_red_dead_redemption_2.html

    So... anybody still wanting to complain about artificial GPU gimping, or do we wait until they fix their game?

    And yes, this is for all of those loudly vocalizing that the fault's totally at Nvidia.
    Not that Nvidia is innocent and always right, but they're not always wrong or to blame alone either.
     
  15. Astyanax

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    its all nvidia's fault my oven stopped working.
     
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  16. sunnyp_343

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    This game still hang and crash after the latest update.the most irritation part is that its crashing when ever good happened with me in thr game.
     
  17. angelgraves13

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    I'm gonna try enabling async compute and see if it does anything for the 2080 Ti.
     
  18. nizzen

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    Pretty crazy that this title is 99.9% gpubound with 2080ti @ 1080p. We need next gen gpu's now!

    Luckily RDR2 is working with sli, so 100fps in 4k pretty nice with 2x2080ti nvlink. Too bad the cost is pretty high.
     
  19. gx-x

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    We need better programmers not just better GPU that 1% of PC users will buy.
     

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