Can you show me where this "crushing" is for Intel over AMD? I really don't see much crushing going on here. Not like the old days, crap so close that fps in games could just be related to who sponsored the game the most... You have been a fanboy of Intel for years, every release of AMD or Intel you state Intel is King. But anyway, if you are upgrading from a 12000 series or 5000 series to a 13000 you be a bit silly, or you just like to waste money on very minor improvements. It's great to see AMD vs Intel being so close that you don't even need to upgrade from previous gens as the new gen ain't much better. haha. AMD did not release their 3D cache version because they know it will beat the 13000 series but they have to milk the market as much as they can now same with every tech. We are not seeing huge increases like we once did in the industry. Intel / AMD / Nvidia are all losing a lot more money now. Its great for us the consumer as we can have our pc parts for longer.
When i bought my 5800X there was no mention of a future X3D chip. If i would of had prior knowledge about this gaming monster then i would of never bothered to buy the 5800X in the first place. Now i own both and AMD won out. I'm good for now so not too bothered about any of the new stuff including 4090 7000 Series and this 13900k. If i was in for a AM5 system this time i'd 100% wait for the X3D chip. So no wonder why 7000 is not selling that well.
So can we use 4 sticks of memory on Intels newest platform at the high speeds yet and have they fixed the bending problems with the socket yet too? I’m just asking questions , as if I had an opportunity to buy new hardware.
People are arguing over figures. If anybody played a game on both an AMD rig and an Intel rig using the fastest of each, but didnt know what rig was what, they would have to guess. In real world gaming you cant tell the difference between the two.
Well I did not try my RTX 4090 on 1080P low settings but I did try my 13700KF on 6200Mhz with 5700Mhz all core got this result.A little better than stock on 13900K
This happens with many different products, cars, phones, specific shops, even things like ISP providers. Subconsciously nobody wants to admit to falling for a bad deal so ignore any negatives and just expand on the positives.
LOL awesome,you took the deep dive.I love AMD but if they cant get there crap together.Intel it is.I knew you were at microcenter(you told me,I did same thing AMD to Intel ). F spiderman ,they lost AMD fans on that one OPPS I forgot,see if your 13900K can keep up with my 13700KF,well I now it can kill on multi but single thread ?
That's right, this is no different to fast cars and drag racing as if you would notice the 0.5-second difference when racing down that strip. You only know because of the speed camera. But there will always be people who will upgrade because it's "new". We see it all the time in the consumer world we live in.
Its funny that in the 4K benchmarks, there is literally 1-3fps difference between the best of the previous Gen and the latest Gen.
OVER 800, requiring a 1300W platinum to be safe as even 1000W PSU might struggle. And that energy is transferred to heat in the room. And while we are OK in the winter, in the summer having a 800W+ heater in your home going to be a problem.
On 3090. 4090 is 80% faster https://www.computerbase.de/2022-10...view-test/2/#abschnitt_benchmarks_in_ultra_hd you'd see way more than 1-3%.
If you run a stress test on both at the same time. Cap a 13900k at 90w,you'll see no difference in gaming.4090 actually stays under 350w on average too.
I said 1-3 FPS bud, not %, and I used the CPU benches on Guru3D as a point of reference. My point being all things considered and for the vast majority, the latest AMD and Intel CPUs are neither evolutionary or revolutionary.
What I meant is 3090 is too slow to really demand a lot from a CPU at 4k,youd be fine running it with a 11400 most of the time at that resolution
I really didn't see that much difference with 4090 + 13900K with let's say 7950x or 5800x3d or 12900K tbh as of now. The GPU is not fast enough to make that massive of a difference between these CPUs. Never considered the 11400 and what not to be high end enough.
Considering the consumption, the ryzen 5800x3d is still a very good option for games. It only remains for them to lower the price to be the king.