Thanks for the review, Hilbert, good as always. I'm concerned about this. I'd still go for a Ryzen CPU - better perf at lower cost. There has been no improvement in performance (IPC) from intel, and having to get a new mobo with this to boot is blatant profiteering. They're STILL nerfing performance by using inferior TIM rather than solder, which is going to kill overclocking. I'm waiting on AMD for their new APUs, really interested to see what Raven Ridge can bring to the table.