Review: Intel Core i7-10700K processor (8c/16t)

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  1. lukas_1987_dion

    lukas_1987_dion Master Guru

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    Worse results than my 9900K at stock by around 3-5%.. I will stay with it for now. After I OC it to 5GHz and use 4000MHz RAM I'm close to 10900K so I won't bother, temps are not an issue with Dark Pro 4. Might jump to new Ryzen next year, will see xD
     
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    My 10700K does 5.1GHz all core at 1.295v..with a 360mm AIO temps are great and more than pleased to pick up a 9900K in disguise with better cooling for a 100 bucks less...
     
  3. wavetrex

    wavetrex Maha Guru

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    Then don't start blaming people for stuff they did or not do.
    That was your mistake, not the lack of knowledge of my post history.

    If you want to attack somebody, then at least make sure you have a good reason to do so and your flaming is justified.
     
  4. MegaFalloutFan

    MegaFalloutFan Master Guru

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    Well unlike AMD Intels CPU have value on second hand market, I paid for 10700K same sum of money I got from selling my 9900K 2 months earlier.
    Also this is going to be my NAS [unRAID] CPU, my gaming rig has 3960x, ill see next year how ZEN3 TR going to be and if it keeps the fake turbo boost and low clocks it will be my last AMD build ever.
     

  5. 0blivious

    0blivious Ancient Guru

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    Didn't Intel have a $1,000 CPU drop to $500 overnight because AMD kicked it's ass? I'll bet the people who spent $1,000 aren't feeling this value you speak of.
     
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    How much intel paid for this review? When is AMD with much lower prices and much better performance !?
     
  7. nizzen

    nizzen Maha Guru

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    I bought 7980xe day one. That is soon 3 years ago. It' s delidded and running 4.7 ghz with 4000mhz c16 memory. Faster in every workload than 3950x, even it's a "ancient" cpu. For me it has been great value and still it is one of the best cpu's overall out there. Should work great for many more years to come :)

    Overclocking the cpu and memory is the key to performance on this platform. At stock it's a average cpu.
     
  8. nizzen

    nizzen Maha Guru

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    Show us youre benchmarknumbers, if you don't like the numbers provided by The Boss :)
     
  9. H83

    H83 Ancient Guru

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    Just read the review and i found very interesting how close the 10700K and 3800X are in terms of performance, with the first having a small advantage in single thread scenarios and the last being better in multi-threaded. The only area where the difference was more noticable was on gaming with Intel still having a decent advantage. I was expecting worse from the 10700K because the 3800X is made of a better node and a more recent arch but that didn´t happen so i think this counts as a victory for Intel , in a certain way.

    The problem is the price, because the 10700K costs around 425€ and the 3800X costs around 340€! So the 3800X remains a better buy despite the 10700K´s showing.

    Great review as always Hibert!
     
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    That's the silliest anecdotal reference I've seen on a PC forum in ages. I also recently sold my Ryzen 1700X to upgrade to a 3900X system and I got within 15% of what I paid for that B350 motherboard and 1700X CPU. Who made the right choice? See...anyone can do that.
     

  11. kakiharaFRS

    kakiharaFRS Master Guru

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    You know I defended Intel a lot but only recently realized how bad silicon lottery was which changes my point of view, while I still think AMD have no clue what they are doing with power management on low usage...at least...you get what you pay for, which is also the case with Intel but.....we expect to be able to oc them unlike AMD and I found out I was fooled by "luck" all those years
    - 1st 9900k almost day1 buy 5.1@1.36v@180watts (hot with aio 85-95° better with custom loop +-85°) 5.0@1.26@140watts (fine with aio 70-75°) so was very happy with it
    - 2nd 9900k i just bought recently cause I had a 2nd "broken" motherboard that I fixed (bent cpu pins) 5.0 required 1.46v and was 220watts O_O which was "hell no" for me so I'm running it with stock settings in a server and it's ok like that now that one is basically non-overclockable

    I never realized how bad it was, even derbauer video with loads of 10900k tested didn't really go into my head but now I understand you can have a really weak Intel cpu and I'm now suspicious about their process quality going way down which would explain why they have no stock for 10900k
     
  12. nizzen

    nizzen Maha Guru

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    Many 10900k in Norway:
    https://www.netonnet.no/art/datakom...UAhND153oH9qoWVTBzABv6WdFSxWPXKaWkAcBIJPD_BwE

    https://www.elkjop.no/product/data/...0900k-3-7-ghz-20mb-socket-1200-no-cooler-incl

    https://www.multicom.no/intel-core-i9-10900k-37ghz-53ghz-20mb/cat-p/c/p1001030399
     
  13. Kaarme

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    What's the point of preaching to people about how they aren't getting the objectively best available option for their free time entertainment purposes? They should get whatever they want and are happy with. Many people weren't happy with Intel for years because of their stubborn refusal to give more cores in the mainstream segment, thus stalling the PC technology development. Are you just supposed to forget all about it? That's brand allegiance if anything. It's a good thing folks sent a message to Intel by switching over to AMD. Although Intel already kicked out their old CEO (who was 100% greed and 0% technology vision), they could still use a few more messages. Intel is kind of a slow learner.

    Edit: weird typo.
     
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  14. MegaFalloutFan

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    Nope never happened, people still sell ancient 4 cores for 300$ and people buy them.
     
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    @rdmetz there people stupid enough to pay 300 usd for a 7700k in 2020? oO you can get equal performing chips from both intel and amd or darn close +mb + 16 gb ram on this price ...and having a huge update path instead of a dead end platform with no update path ...
     

  16. asturur

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    It happened.
    I can assure you someone buying a 7700k used for 300$ has either a system he wants to upgrade on that cpu or is crazy.
    With 300% he could have bought a 3700X or 3600X + mainboard.
     
  17. Venix

    Venix Ancient Guru

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    still makes no sense for 300 he can get a ryzen 3100 or 3300 or i3 10300 with motherboard + 16 gb ddr 4 ram ....and have a palatform that he can update up to 16 core or 10 core ..... and much much higher longevity ....even updating your old pc is just not worth the price
     
  18. MegaFalloutFan

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    Double up the tin foil.
     
  19. wavetrex

    wavetrex Maha Guru

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    I guess none of you know that Guru3D is giving "Recommended" award to anything that is not completely broken (so pretty much to anything reviewed).

    There is no award here for "Works but is totally not worth it because too expensive"


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    (well, maybe the "Great Value" one as well, but that's somewhat rare these days)
     
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  20. asturur

    asturur Maha Guru

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    Wavetrex the 10700k is just out.
    Price will adjust, is around 420 eur right now, that is a bit expensive compared to other 8 cores, but your comment is completely wrong.

    The 10700k is still a recommended cpu because is good and is fast. Is a better pick of the 9900k. So why it shouldn't be recommended?
     
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